Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/11/13

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Dancing and Architecture, was Canon EOS for Leica-style...sorry!
From: "Mike Durling" <durling@widomaker.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 08:02:52 -0500
References: <003a01c16bea$e27719a0$7600a8c0@tbirdad> <00d801c16bf4$9ff1c9e0$58f9f6ce@alice> <3BF0CB0D.E06D09FC@rabiner.cncoffice.com>

Just for clarification, Colin shot the pictures.  I just expressed a
fondness for one of them.  (The others aren't bad either.)  I have neither
an Eos nor a Noctilux.  (I sure would like the latter though!)

Mike D

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark@rabiner.cncoffice.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Dancing and Architecture, was Canon EOS for
Leica-style...sorry!


> A Canon zoom with a ttl flash wow! The pictures sure come out and they're
quite
> nice just like the 10 million other photographers out there shooting with
Canon
> zooms with their dedicated flashes.
> We have to have respect for real picture taking by a working photographer.
And
> by far most certainly use Canon.
> But interestingly here an example of when you need amazing speed in a lens
Mike
> goes to Leica! The Noctilux!
> I was expecting the opposite to be illustrated.
> Perhaps he has very agreeable to Leica lovers reasons for not having a
second
> Canon body with the Canon 50mm f1 AF lens?
> Would these pictures have come out a bit better if Mike went around
gleefully
> blasting every one lining up for him with a Leica R with it's zoom and ttl
flash?
> I think so but who the hell would care in this case?
> They sure were not AF dependant.
> This outfit and shoot has the Canon as the bread and butter picture taking
> machine with the Noctilux on an M as a backup for those excruciating
moments
> when it seemed completely inappropriate to use flash. It looked like to
me.
> It's Leica which is the special purpose high speed back up in this case
not
> Canon with its high speed optics of other focal lengths.
>
> Just a tad ironic as it's kind of being used as an example to prop of the
> argument of we need Canon when we need optical speed.
>
> For some reason there is a justification of using two camera systems here,
one
> off topic for this list, and i don't know what it is. Mike isn't telling
us. But
> that's really no big deal.
> No big deal as i see it on this list we don't pretend other cameras don't
exist.
> They get mentioned in passing. It's unavoidable. It's reality.
>
> But if someones switching to Canon for it's fast lenes or other reasons
perhaps
> the best place to get the best information with the least conflict is on
the
> Canon list. I'm sure they don't mind an occasionally mention of Leica in
passing
> on their list. AS long as it is well preambled with how overpriced and
archaic
> they are.
>
> I have no big problem with Simon or Mike and my hunch would be likewise.
> Others have jumped on this thing all red in the face with their ongoing
agendas
> which they'd not care to mention.
> A tad rancorous for many and a shame we cant be kinder better people who
state
> where they are coming from but things were gettin pretty slow around here
so
> what the hell!?.
>
> I use Hasselblads extensively but i don't go on and on here to the joys
and
> wonders of medium format and Zeiss for Hasselblad optics with
interchangeable
> backs which always break.
> Although in the past Zeiss and Leitz might have had some things in common.
> Some of us have late model Focomats for Peet's sake!  And live and die for
35mm.
> I certainly have to respect that!
>
> So i don't ask on this list if the Zeiss 120 f4 macro made for Contax for
it's
> 645 with internal focusing has anything over the Zeiss 120 f4 macro which
all
> this time has been made for Hasselblad and Rolleiflex with much less
elements
> and a more traditional Zeiss design.
> That would be rude! Who would want to hear all about THAT on the Leica
Users
> Group? :)
>
> Mark Rabiner
>
> Portland, Oregon
> USA
>
> http://www.rabiner.cncoffice.com/
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In reply to: Message from "Colin" <CJV@home.com> (RE: [Leica] Dancing and Architecture, was Canon EOS for Leica-style...sorry!)
Message from "Mike Durling" <durling@widomaker.com> (Re: [Leica] Dancing and Architecture, was Canon EOS for Leica-style...sorry!)
Message from Mark Rabiner <mark@rabiner.cncoffice.com> (Re: [Leica] Dancing and Architecture, was Canon EOS for Leica-style...sorry!)