Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/11/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Dragi, you can say anything you want to say. Say Leica is by far the best camera in the world and that any photographer who is worth a rats hindquarter uses one, if that makes you happier about the fact that you use one. :-) I would suggest, and this is only a suggestion, that once one get to a certain level of camera, there is no "best," there is only 'best' for each individual photographer under each circumstance. Certainly there are tests that will tell you what is technically the 'best' lens at each focal length and f stop, according to the criteria of the particular tester. But suppose every Canon lens scores "best" at f 2.8, but I always shoot at 2.5 or wider.(I am making this up, obviously) Then while the Canon lenses are rated "best," they're worthless to me, and a lens that doesn't score as well, but which I can shoot at f 1.4, is "the best" for me. There are some professional photographers who use Canon "amature" bodies with the pro lenses, because those bodies are much lighter and easier to handle than the "pro" body, and are so comparatively cheap that they don't care if the body falls apart - they want the weight and handling advantage. Go figure. And as to Magnum, I am willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of Magnum shooters do most of their professional 35 mm work with Nikons and Canons - as do most of the world's working pros. That doesn't mean that they don't all own Leicas and enjoy using them. (And I don't know whether they do or don't ;-) ) But it does mean that most use something else for "bringing home the bacon." Does that mean that Leica isn't the best? NO. It only means that for one reason or another these photographers use something else. B. D. Dragi Anevski wrote: > > I would say that all these things make the Leica the "better" camera. If you > cannot say that a camera is better because is has say sharper lenses (which > Leica arguably has) and you can't say it's because you get better results > with it (for whatever reason), then what IS the proper criterion for > determining which camera is better? Of course this means better for you... > Doesn't necessarily mean better for me. > > BUT, if enough people get "better" results with one brand than with > another...And we could of course do some statistics and see for instance > what say some high class photo group such as Magnums photographers use, but > that's not allowed either, so ... ;-) > > Dragi Anevski > > >From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> > >Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > >Subject: Re: [Leica] the 90% rule-long, rambling BS from Walt > >Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 11:13:55 -0500 > > > > > > > >George Weir wrote: > > > > > > Ok Walt I'll bite, and no flame intended; > > > > > > If there is no difference in results as you say then why would it be > > > that clients, photographers and non-photographers can correctly identify > > > the "better photos" when shown a set taken under same circumstances, > > > using same film, developer, paper etc.? > > > >Perhaps they see a difference because you take better photos with your > >Leica equipment than you do with Nikon equipment. You may be more > >comfortable with the Leica equipment. You may 'see' better with the > >Leica equipment. You may tend to use the Leica equipment to take the > >more impressive shots. You feel more confident as a photographer using > >the Leica equipment. You may use the Leica equipment to take shots which > >- because of the noise - you wouldn't take with the Nikon equipment, and > >folks really like those shots. > > > >There are any number of reasons why your Leica shots might be "better" > >than the Nikon shots, and not one of those reasons has anything to do > >with the equipment being inherently better. > > > >B. D. > > > >Who loves both his Leica and Nikon equipment, each for different > >reasons. > >-- > >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html