Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/10/21

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Liars Figure: Smoking Pistols!
From: "Roland Smith" <>
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 17:29:19 -0700
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Actually Marc, there is no need to have you agree with the health issue we
have raised about smoking.   It is the rest of the people who have not yet
formed a strong opinion that we would like to reach and convince.

Roland Smith
Oakland, California

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From: "Marc James Small" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Liars Figure: Smoking Pistols!

> At 01:20 PM 10/21/01 -0700, ternahan wrote:
> >Marc,
> >
> >There are multiple large, long term studies on the effects of second hand
> >smoke on children that show a definitive increase in asthma, ear
> >bronchitis, upper respiratory infections and serious allergies...all of
> >which affect school performance negatively...some of which is due to
> >documented increase in the number of absences of children who live in
> >smoking households.
> No, there are not.  There are studies which show that the children of
> smokers have ya-da-da effects.  Do similar studies on the children of
> non-smokers.  Do studies of rural families versus
> urban families.  Do studies of families near pollution sites versus those
> in away from the same.  Do studies of families in arid areas versus those
> in moist areas.
> Christ.  When you guys get your act in order, talk to me.  In the
> can it.  You are conducting statistically meaningless studies and are
> attempting to impose your Puritan viewpoins on the American populace as a
> result.  Well, do the homework -- you MIGHT be correct.  But, before you
> harp on your victory, get the data together.  Eliminate EVERY other
> possible problem.  This standard is not absurd:  it is the same standard
> imposed on every other challenger to every other chemical problem, and
> is the standard which has been in existence for at least the past century.
> Prove everything, eliminate every alternative.
> Do this, and I will agree with you.  Fail to do this, and logic dictates
> that I fight your foolishness.
> Marc
>  FAX:  +540/343-7315
> Cha robh bąs fir gun ghrąs fir!
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