Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/08/13

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Subject: Re: [Leica] The Americans, Avedon, etc
From: Andrew Schroter <schroter@optonline.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:23:21 -0700
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Perhaps what the reader of the book or the viewer in the gallery see is what
the world looks like from the point of view of the photographer and how the
world reacts to the photographer.  Avedon, in his introduction to "In the
American West", writes "There are times when I speak and times when I do
not, times when I react too strongly and destroy the tension that is the
photograph."    This is an example of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle
at work. (See http://www.honors.unr.edu/~fenimore/wt202/close/#principle) if
you don't get my drift.  Photographers, the closer they come to their
subjects, the more the subject is affected.


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Gess" <Harold.Gess@btinternet.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 2:59 PM
Subject: [Leica] The Americans, Avedon, etc


> I have been following the thread on photographers and the truth or
otherwise
> of what they show.
>
> I think that we must remember that each of us carries with us our own
> experience, vision, ideology, and set of interests or agenda with us.
>
> Some of us might go to a country and photograph it from one point of view,
> others from another. We each see what we want to see. That does not make
our
> images illegitimate or a lie. It does not make them a balanced view
either.
>
> I might go out and photograph Paris and seek out the lovers, the artists,
> the coffee shops, the romance of paris, people enjoying the spring and
call
> my book "Parisians". Somebody else might go out and photograph the drug
> scene, the poverty which exists in some areas, the night workers, the
> prostitutes, etc and call their book "Parisians". A third photographer
might
> take the same title and photograph office workers, religious figures,
> politicians and shopkeepers.
>
> None of the three books is an accurate view of Paris. Does it matter? Each
> is an experience, a vision of Paris. Each is legitimate but none is a
> complete view. Nobody will ever produce a complete and balanced view.
>
> I think it is much more important to view what is being said and to accept
> that that is how someone saw, or chose to see, the situation or place,
> rather than to try and quantify whether it is an accurate portrayal of our
> own experience of the same place.
>
> Harold
>
>
>

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