Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/08/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Oh, and p.s.: there *is* some great Mamiya stuff out there. The RF lenses are uniformly terrific, IMNSHO; most RZ stuff provides for very satisfying portrait results (but less so with product/architecture, where the crispness of Zeiss/Schneider really makes a difference) and the new AF 645 line is very, very nice. In fact, a well-known photog I know (who shoots, Rollei 6008/RZ/Nikon/Contax) tried out the Contax 645 for a while and switched to Mamiya 645...and he's not the only one I know to have done so. Reason? Aside from some handling issues (weight, mostly), he felt the Mamiya glass was more flattering than the "brutal sharpness" of Zeiss. Every application has its tool... - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of George Day Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 9:46 AM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica Quality versus Medium Format Mark, Well said! The primary difference -- the difference people notice -- is not lpm. It's smoothness of tone, better contrast, etc., etc. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 5:49 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Quality versus Medium Format George Day wrote: > > Loupes? Hardly necessary. You have to be wearing fogged glasses not to > tell the difference between 6x7 and 35mm at 20x24. Ditto for 16x20 and, > frankly, ditto for 8x10. You know this Mark...are you baiting? If this > were the case, you can imagine that a lot more magazine covers, to say > nothing of fine art prints, etc., etc., etc., would be shot with the far > greater convenience of 35mm. > > Different formats are different tools. Not all tools in the same format are > perfect for all situations or for the way the photographer wants to capture > that situation. > Not really I just think the numbers are so different from real time results. The people most likely to quote numbers are often the people who are less in tune with real time results. Sorry friends! Many people are under the illusion from such results and what they know also from the numbers that 35mm is sharper than larger formats. The larger formats make for such smoother prints that this smoothness makes people think they are less sharp when looking at a large print but with out a loup. becuae not only will they be smoother but also sharper. Although a crummy medium format lens might make much less of a difference. And Mamiya has never made me go "wow." but nowadays with computer design I"ms sure they're more than OK alntough not something I'd think of passing down to my grandchildren. Should i choose to accept them. A Zeiss or Schneider lens gets my attention. A large format Nikkor lens gets my attention. Mamiya! how i don't love ya! Mark Rabiner Portland, Oregon USA http://www.rabiner.cncoffice.com/