Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/07/27

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Glass issues
From: "Greg J. Lorenzo" <gregj.lorenzo@home.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:16:47 -0600
References: <B787A7E2.C66%imxputs@ision.nl>

I've been away from the user group for almost a month.

Erwin, I am delighted to see you've returned. Welcome Back!

Greg J. Lorenzo
Calgary, Alberta

PS: The Heiland Splitgrade Controller I ordered for my V35 arrived while
I was away. I'm planing to set-up it and test print with it this
weekend. 

Erwin Puts wrote:
> 
> The current discussion about the quality of filters and the differences in
> glass manufacturer is to a large extent based on partial information, and in
> danger of being wrongly interpreted.
> Some basics.
> Every optical glass is defined by two properties: index of refraction and
> dispersion (referred to as the Abbe number).
> If you would look in a glass catalogue of a major manufacturer (as example
> Schott) you will see a glass map, which has on the horizontal dimansion the
> Abbe number and on the vertical axis the Refraction value. All types of
> glass can be located within this coordinate system. Glass wih a specific
> combination of Abbe number and Refractive index can be identified by a name
> or a number: for some glass Schott calls it BK7, Corning calls it B-16-64,
> Hoya calls it BSC-7, O'Hara calls it BSL-7 and the official designation is "
> 517624".
> Whatever you name it and who will produce it, all relevant characteristics
> are identical. There are of course differences in glass composition, thermal
> processing, homogeneity and stain resistance etc.
> But the optical properties are identical.
> If a filter company needs glass with some specifications, they will specify
> the requirements and select a glass. It does not matter at all whether this
> glass is provided by Hoya, Schott (in Germany or Malaisia), Corning or Ohara
> or Minolta or you name it. Sometimes the Schott version of the glass is
> better sometimes Ohara or Hoya.
> 
> While most companies manufacture glass that has been created by Schott,
> there are also many glass types by Hoya or others that have no equivalent in
> the Schott catalogue.
> 
> The whole discussion about the quality of glass being related to a
> manufacturer is wrong. You have to look at the specifications and then
> select a manufacturer that is closest to these specs.
> While Schott is still the reference, there are many glass types from others
> who surpass the Schott glass.
> The idea that a filter made from Schott glass must be superior to one made
> from Hoya glass is untenable.
> 
> In fact many lens desigersoften  prefer Hoya glass and not Schott glass even
> when the numbers are identical, because the characteristics of the Hoya
> glass are superior to the Schott glass for the application.
> 
> Remember too that glass is made in four categories of quality. So Schott
> glass of class 2 is not as good as Hoya glass category four.
> 
> 
> You have to study the glass catalogues and the characteristics to be sure of
> what a glass does. There is not a one to one correspondence between
> manufacturer-glass type-quality.
> 
> Erwin

In reply to: Message from Erwin Puts <imxputs@ision.nl> ([Leica] Glass issues)