Re: [Leica] Ilford film reliability

["onetreehillclw" <onetreehillclw@compaq.net>]

Now I knew I shouldn't have mentioned New Orleans water. Sonny 16 is always
lurking. The chunks clog up my print washer sometimes.

Chris Williams

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Sonny Carter" <sonc@sonc.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Ilford film reliability


> Dilute New Orleans tap water 1:1 with  Dixie Beer and it makes a fine
grain,
> (except for the chunks) two-stop push developer for All Illford products.
>
> Regards,
> SonC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "onetreehillclw" <onetreehillclw@compaq.net>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 9:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Ilford film reliability
>
>
> > Been using Ilford film(XP2,HP5,FP4, Delta), paper(Multigrade double
> > weight),developer(DD-X. ID-11), stop bath(doesn't stink,like Kodak's!),
> > contrast filters,etc... for years. Never any problems here. And that's
> using
> > good old New Orleans water in the mix! I don't care for the way Kodak
> > markets their products. I'll stick with the Brits.
> >
> > Chris Williams
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <ShadCat11@aol.com>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 1:34 PM
> > Subject: [Leica] Ilford film reliability
> >
> >
> > > I go through a cycles, periodically, in which I am seduced by reports
of
> > > superior performance by one Ilford product or another, so I try some,
> find
> > > it's all true, and take up with the Brit until the weirdness begins.
> > After a
> > > hiatus of some years, I got into Ilford again, only to get bit in the
> ass
> > > once more.
> > >
> > > Lately I have been using lots of Delta 400 in 35mm and 120.  Great
film,
> > all
> > > it's reported to be.  Just as I started to get happy, my Ilford Thing
> came
> > > back.  Several 120 rolls are showing clear "ridges" down the length of
> > them,
> > > appearing on some rolls and not others.  One 35 mm roll has a thin
> stripe
> > of
> > > what appears to be exposure down the top edge, just into the frame.
> Other
> > > film developed in the same batch did not show this.
> > >
> > > When processing, I hang films to dry with out touching the front or
> back,
> > so
> > > I don't think handling is responsible..  The rolls, 120 and 35  have
> gone
> > > through several cameras with no apparent correlation, and no previous
or
> > > subsequent films of Kodak or Fuji have shown these flaws, so I am
pretty
> > sure
> > > it's not a problem in my equipment.  The 120 stripe doesn't show in a
> > print,
> > > but the 35 mm does.  All the film was purchased fresh-dated from B&H,
> from
> > > whom I buy Fuji and Kodak films, also.
> > >
> > > Every single time I have gone to Ilford I have been sooner or later
> stung
> > by
> > > what seem to be quality control problems.  This dates from and
includes
> > HP3,
> > > FP3, FP4, HP5, XP1, XP1 processing kit, Multigrade III and Multigrade
> IV,
> > all
> > > of which I got bad batches.  OTOH, in 46 years of photography in using
> > Kodak
> > > for 95% of my film and darkroom supplies, I haven't got a bad
anything.
> > BTW,
> > > likewise Fuji.
> > >
> > > Every time this strangeness happens, I swear off Ilford, return to and
> > > appreciate Kodak quality control all the more, and wonder if I have
been
> > > unusually unlucky or if others have had the same kind of experience.
> > >
> > > Allen Zak.
> >
>