Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/04/27

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Subject: Re: Re: [Leica] RGB... DOA or MIA?
From: "Mike Durling" <durling@widomaker.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:09:52 -0400
References: <ea.14c70733.281afe2c@aol.com>

There are ways of telling which print stock they were made on.  I remember
having a discussion about this with a guy who restores Hollywood movies.
Since yours have already faded its probably academic.  The new print stock
does seem to hold up pretty well.  You can try reprinting or digitizing the
negatives to see whether those have faded.

Mike D

- ----- Original Message -----
From: <ShadCat11@aol.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Leica] RGB... DOA or MIA?


> All my RGB processed film was from the 70s.
>
> Allen Zak
>
> In a message dated 04/27/2001 8:06:01 AM, you wrote:
>
> <<I look after a library of old films at work.  I find an amazing
variability
>
> in how well various 16mm prints hold up.  As far as I can tell it seems to
>
> correlate to which lab did the prints.  Maybe some labs took shortcuts on
>
> their processing.  I can't rule out the possibility that a particular
>
> generation of print stock is the culprit.  The bad ones roughly come from
>
> the '70s, with those from the '60s and '80s holding up just fine.  Of
course
>
> those subjects where we are lucky to have Kodachrome prints haven't faded
at
>
> all!
>
>
> Mike Durling
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: <ShadCat11@aol.com>
>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:10 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] RGB... DOA or MIA?
>
>
>
> >
>
> > In a message dated 04/26/2001 2:07:44 PM, you wrote:
>
> >
>
> > <<Does anyone know if RGB is still available anywhere? It is 35 mm movie
>
> > film stock cut up and cassette-loaded, and  used to be sold and
>
> > processed by Seattle Film Works, and longer ago RGB and an outfit in
>
> > Texas. There was an option of negs & slides, plus prints if requested,
>
> > and later really dreadful scans to disk which they insisted on cropping,
>
> > thus destroying my 'full frame' intentions.>>
>
> >
>
> > Years ago when I lived in Los Angeles I used movie film short ends
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> reloaded
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> > into 35mm cassettes and sold as above described by RGB, a company that
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> > processed film for the movie industry.  It was the best (IMHO) negative
>
> film
>
> > then available, and the slides were printed on the same color release
film
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> > used for projection.  It was my main color film for years.
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> >
>
> > I now regret having used the stuff.  The positive film, designed for
>
> > projection, fades fast in storage.  Within 7 years, they looked like 30
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> year
>
> > old E3.  Awful.  Only the relatively few Kodachromes I took during a 13
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> year
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> > period are still good.
>
> > Modern color neg is much better, and almost anything will outperform
that
>
> > kind of transparency.  Run!  Save yourself!  Too late for me :-(
>
> >
>
> > Allen Zak>>
>
>

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