Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/04/21

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Subject: [Leica] Re: WAS: R8 serial numberNOW: "where made!"
From: Jim Brick <jim@brick.org>
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:17:37 -0700
References: <B706A4EB.4FC3%joseph@yao.com> <5.0.2.1.2.20010421094626.024a31e0@pop.clix.pt> <3AE19630.E7DC594D@ubi.edu>

Grump #2 concurs with grump #1!!!

Jim


At 08:46 AM 4/21/01 -0700, Ted Grant wrote:
>Hi Lucien,
>Of course the machines made in Portugal are as good as made in Germany as
>you say.  Unfortunately some of these LUG nut cases think everything must be
>made in Germany, which of course is bull shit (pardon me ladies) simply
>because the plants are completely set up with Solms designs and overseers
>and methods.
>
>Which must be compiled with or Leica "Germany suffers" because everything
>falls apart.
>
>This "Made in Germany syndrome" is a complete crock, don' we read all kinds
>of posts about QC out of Solms and the mistakes that slip through to the
>buyers? I'd almost imagine it would behooving to buy something made in
>Portugal simply because there might be a higher level of QC there than what
>seems to slip through at the Solms level.
>
>Similarly all the nonsense about, "Are the lenses and cameras marked "Made
>in Canada" as good as those made in Germany?" Of course they are, and in
>some cases better, as has been stated here on many occasions.
>
>So the dummies whining, "I don't want anything marked Portugal or any other
>place than Germany" are just that, "dummies living in an age long past!"
>just my humble opinion for a nice Saturday morning. The grump has landed!
>;-)
>ted
>
>
>
>Ted Grant Photography Limited
>www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lucien" <director@ubi.edu>
>To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 7:16 AM
>Subject: Re: [Leica] R8 serial number
>
>
>>
>>
>> César Bernardo wrote:
>>
>> > Why, do you think there are more quality on the products made at
>Germany?
>> > You are wrong and I invite you to visit the factory at Vila Nova de
>> > Famalicão - Portugal, to verify the professionalism.
>> >
>> > Many luggers think there no quality at the leica products made at
>Portugal.
>> > I´m sad for it.
>> >
>> > The Leica M6 from this year on will be made in Portugal, and I ask you
>if
>> > you are going to stop buying it?
>>
>> Cèsar,
>>
>> All the persons I know that have visited the Leica Portugal factory told
>me
>> that they were more impressed by it than by Solms Factory.
>> And the reputation of the management there is outstanding.
>>
>> I think we should be glad that the major part of the M6 is assembled in
>> Portugal.
>>
>> Lucien
>>
> 

In reply to: Message from César Bernardo <cesar.photo@clix.pt> (Re: [Leica] R8 serial number)
Message from Lucien <director@ubi.edu> (Re: [Leica] R8 serial number)