Re: [Leica] Noctilux (from Canada or Germany?)

["Simon Lamb" <simon@sclamb.com>]

I did hear that there were far more Noctilux lens barrels, rings etc. made
with the Made in Canada stamp on them that were actually used.  If
production has moved back to Solms, it is not inconceivable that they may be
using up the stock of casings already produced rather than re-manufacture
just for the sake of changing the wording on the barrel.

Just a thought.

Simon

Stephen Gandy wrote:

> According to Elcan about a year ago, all Leica Lens production had already
been
> moved to Germany.
>
> If your new Nocts are Canadian, it would seem either production was moved
back to
> Canada, or it is old production just being sold (more likely in my
opinion).
> Check with Elcan, they actually answer email !
>
> Stephen Gandy
>
> "Dr. Joseph Yao" wrote:
>
> > Horace,
> >
> > All the Noctilux, up to the ones I received two weeks ago, are still
> > Canadian, although they all had the Leica Solms issued 'Test
Certificate'.
> > I have never seen a German Noctilux.  Has any LUGgers?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Joseph
> >
> > on 26/2/01 8:57 PM, Dr H L Lau at shllau@hkusua.hku.hk wrote:
> >
> > > After the ELCAN plant was sold to Raytheon in 1998, it was believed
that the
> > > production of
> > > the 75mm Summilux and the Noctilux would be moved to Solms; Stephan
Gandy on
> > > his
> > > website also stated this "expectation".  So far the "new" German-made
75mm
> > > Summilux has
> > > appeared (order no. changed from 11815 to 11810, same optical design,
but a
> > > slightly
> > > different mechanical design in the helicoid resulting in some 40g
reduction in
> > > weight).
> > > But the German-made Noctilux has yet to come, at least as far as a
> > > newly-shipped-in-from-Solms Noctilux (which my friend bought from the
> > > respectable Dr
> > > Joseph Yao a couple of weeks ago) went -- it was "made in Canada".  My
> > > Noctilux bought
> > > last year (serial no. 3814xxx, which includes the signed Test
Certificate
> > > introduced in late
> > > 2000) was also made in Canada.
> > > One speculation was that Leica is just selling the unsold stock from
ELCAN.
> > > This is an
> > > interesting topic to follow, especially now when all Leica M lenses
are
> > > supposedly made in
> > > Germany.  The recent thread on LUG concerning the 35-75 mm f/2.8
> > > Vario-Elmarit-R ASPH
> > > also shed light on the technical "problems" Leica has faced with. The
dealers
> > > that I know in
> > > Hong Kong, Japan and Germany also maintain that the Noctilux is being
made in
> > > Germany.
> > > This added to the "mystery" of where the Noctilux is currently
produced (those
> > > who couldn't
> > > care less of the country of manufacture can save their time and stop
reading
> > > on).
> > > When I enquired ELCAN of any currently produced lenses for
still-picture
> > > photography, their
> > > answer is that the Noctilux is still being made there!  I enclose
their e-mail
> > > reply in the
> > > following.  The big question now is not WHERE anymore, but WHY?
> > >
> > > Horace Lau
>
>