Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/12/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]What's particularly chilling is not the straight "political murders," but the internal ethnic cleansing and the deaths of 10s of millions by starvation as a result of the forced collectivism....... Roger wrote: > Last I heard/read, Joseph Stalin wiped out 20,000,000 > people. Including anyone else in the Communist party > that could be considered competition. Witch hunts were > the order of the day. KGB was used to hunt down guys > like Trotsky, and lure them back into Russia, all > based on Stalin's paranoia that the White Russians and > the West were plotting and scheming against him. The > KGB were given orders to infiltrate other governments, > other spy/intelligence organizations, and recruite > sympathesizers from Universities around the world. > I've only recently started reading it, but it's a real > eye opener. Written by an ex-KGB dude who is a real > whistleblower, and he made notes and copies of KGB > files going back decades. You can read about it in a > fascinating book: > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0465003109/o/qid=975978268/sr=2-1/002-0890966-9044036 > > My big question is not whether any of these facts are > in dispute or not. It's with the crumbling of Russia, > what are these guys doing now? I mean, if all that's > on their resume is working for the KGB, where do they > go for a new job? > > --- "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote: > > And further, Horst et. al, while I agree with you > > entirely about your view of Hitler > > and the Germans during the National Socialist > > period, before blithely writing off as > > comparatively petty the crimes of monsters such as > > Stalin, Mao ad Pol Pot, I would > > urge you to browse through a fascinating book called > > The Black Book of Communism. > > You'll learn that in terms of numbers of victims, > > Herr Hitler was a piker - and I am > > NOT in any way saying "he wasn't all that bad." What > > I am saying is that for various > > reasons we have never quite recognized the horror > > perpetrated by some other regimes > > on their own peoples. > > > > B. D. > > > > aruby@rci.rutgers.edu wrote: > > > > > on 12/3/00 10:56 PM, A.H.SCHMIDT at > > horsts@primus.com.au wrote: > > > > > > >> Krechtz@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > >> I suppose we can make room for a few neo-Nazis. > > > > > > > >> Joe Sobel > > > > > > > > People who write this, have no idea what they > > are talking about. They have no > > > > idea what the Nazi regime was. It was the most > > evil ,sadistic and miserable > > > > collection of people ever assembled. It made > > others with similar ideals look > > > > like > > > > stark beginners. Be it Attilla the Hun, Stalin > > or Pol Pot. None of them could > > > > compete with the atrocities the Nazis managed to > > inflict on to other people. > > > > The > > > > only ones who really know what nazism as > > practiced by Hitler's mob meant, > > > > where > > > > the victims. Remember, there was nothing even > > slightly good about this > > > > regime. > > > > All the idiots who list so called achievements > > like the Autobahn, the rockets > > > > etc., don't want to admit, or are to stupid to > > realize, that this was only > > > > done > > > > to create more and faster mayhem. > > > > Any positive or light hearted reference to this > > regime shows total ignorance. > > > > > > > > Regards, Horst Schmidt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortuantely, Horst, you're wrong. The Nazis were > > just a bunch of ordinary > > > Germans, ie, just like anyone else. To claim that > > they were anything more or > > > less is to beg for it to happen again. Besides, > > the holocaust perpetrated by > > > the Nazis was neither the most lethal nor the most > > terrible; history, sadly > > > 20th century history in particular has amply > > demonstrated that fact. > > > > > > Aaron > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/