Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/12/02

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Dec National Geo...
From: "Dan States" <dstate1@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 17:12:58 -0000

If you are doing the transfer in the dark room you bet there is a 
difference.  Unless you are using (crappy) Panalure paper you are going to 
have to crank up the contrast with filters to get a useable print.  Even 
then the grain becomes terrible and the contrast rendering of the print goes 
out of control.  Best to suck the color out on Photoshop...

Dan




>I was wondering.
>Is there (should there be)
>a difference between
>BW prints done off colour negatives
>and BW prints done of BW negatives,
>assuming a BW enlarger, BW paper and chemicals?
>Javier
>
>
>Nick Poole wrote:
>
> > Re: B&W repro in National Geographic, Thomas G. Tamura wrote:
> > >
> > >I wonder if it was even shot with B&W film?  I believe many of the
> > >news magazinesS (snip) are running B&W photos that were originally
> > >shot on either color film or digitally.
> > >
> > >Just my thoughts.
> >
> > You're quite right, Thomas. This is now the norm because it's so easy
> > to strip the colour out in Photoshop and still retain the densities
> > needed to print as a full tone B&W image - if done properly. But few
> > people do this because it takes real skill to get rich, open shadow
> > detail using a single ink (black) on an offset press. B&W pictures in
> > art books, monographs etc., are usually printed as duotones (black
> > and a second colour, often grey, to retain highlight detail and
> > enrich the lower mid-tones) to overcome this. What you may not be
> > aware of is that nearly all B&W images in magazines are printed using
> > CMYK process inks, i.e. they are really colour! Examine the
> > characteristic rosettes under a loupe and you'll see it clearly.
> > Nick.
>
>
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