Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/11/30

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Subject: [Leica] Country of origin
From: "Turd Flinger" <turdflinger@my-deja.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:47:18 -0800

Good question, Kurt.  I'm relatively new as well and I've been lurking, observing this behavior for some time.  I've often wondered myself what relationship Mr. Puts has with Leica.  If you want to see just how far this goes, have a look at his website www.imx.nl for the latest "lens tests" that I'd venture to say, a lot of people on this list have framed in their living rooms and burn incense to.  Mr. Puts and his followers have little to no understanding of science - anyone with any background at all in anything related to science has been exposed to rudimentary statistics, and one of the first things one will learn in statistics is that a sample of one is statistically meaningless.  But yet that is the best Mr. Puts can do... test one lens out hundreds or even thousands, present his "findings", and his faithful will solemnly nod and hand over their hard-earned cash to buy this latest Puts-approved optical wonder.  I recall that when the new Summicron-M f/2:28mm was announce!
d, at least one person on this list had the gall to publicly proclaim that he would await Lord Puts' stamp of approval before buying it.  There was also a recent flame war in which Mr. Puts threatened to leave the LUG, which of course provoked such a frenzy in his disciples that they promised never to piss off their god again, and of course, appeased, Mr. Puts stayed.  Incidentally, not everyone on this list belongs to the Puts cult.  Mr. Gandy is probably the most outspoken of the objective among us, but we are here, and contribute a dose of reality to the group every so often.

Turd  

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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:48:59 -0500
From: khmiska  <khmiska@umich.edu> 
Subject: Re: [Leica] Country of origin Smoke Screens
Message-ID:  <3A2668DB.5A040A63@umich.edu> 
References:  <000001c05a32$2aa38cc0$5f2340c3@pbncomputer>  
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Stephen,
Wow. Finally somebody on my frequency. I'm new to the Leica game and 
therefore know
nothing about the pompous Mr. Puts. Who is he? Is he a PR flak?, Leica 
lobbyist? an
optical engineer? a mechanical engineer? a manufacturing engineer? Who 
has endowed
him with all this "wisdom?" Why does nearly everyone on the LUG bow, 
scrape and
a**k*** him? Can someone enlighten me?
Cordially,
Kurt Miska
German Business Translations
Ann Arbor, Michigan




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