Re: [Leica] Re: Get bent, part nth

[Steve Beyer <steve@beyerphoto.com>]

You know I think we have gone far enough in this discussion.  It does seem
that Erwin and Mike need some time to cool off a bit. I think each could
have learned to hit the delete button after counting to 10. Each seems to
represent opposite sides of the science verses art poles. Over the years, I
have learned much for both of them.  I have respect for both of their
opinions and I think it would be a shame to lose either but I would
understand. This bickering is more hardship than I would be willing to
endure.  I don't think comments like this or Mark's really help the
situation.  I would hope that this type of comments would be address
privately. Isn't this a bit like throwing fuel on the fire?  Hey look, I am
not a Leica expert, I come here to learn from experts.  I have learned a
great deal here but at times I feel like I am in the middle of a war zone.

Steve

  
> On 24 Nov 2000, Mike Johnston wrote, at least in part:
> 
>> Erwin,
>> I would really appreciate it if you would stop commenting on my
>> posts. Every time I say something, you jump in with 500 lines of
>> blather anxiously attempting to refute whatever I say. I think
>> most luggers are intelligent enough to form their own opinions of
>> what I write without your obfuscations.
>> 
>> As for myself, I'm flattered that you're so concerned with every
>> word I say, but I'm not interested in your overanxious critiques
>> of my opinions.
> 
> You don't suppose that Erwin merely wants to insert his opinion
> on something that you said, do you Mike? If you write it here or
> on the LEG, the reader has every right to comment on it. Erwin's
> comments are always without rancor and no flames are directed
> at anyone. If the shoe fits, wear it!
> 
> Obfuscation? Hardly! Erwin directs his energies against
> obfuscation in the way he knows best. The scientific method!
> Obviously, that doesn't fit everyone 100%. I can't appreciate
> some of Erwin's posts because I don't have the background with
> which to analyse it. Similarly, I can't photograph like many of
> the folk here because I just don't have the eye or as good a
> handle on the craft. These shortcomings of mine are the reason
> I am here and on the LEG.
> 
> You have blown your own horn here enough, that most, I'm
> sure, are convinced of your expertise in editorial layout and
> selection of photographs to further that task. Likewise, a high
> level of photography and darkroom smarts is conferred to you.
> Why can't you grant Erwin his smarts in an area that you are
> either shy of experience or just plain disinterested in?
> 
> Mark Rabiner asked you, some time ago, a rather leading
> question about your current degree of vestedness [sic] in Leica.
> I don't recall seeing a reply. I'll again ask, How much time in
> Leica do you have?
> 
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