Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/10/04

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Subject: RE: [Leica] M6 TTL .58 accurate with a Noctilux?
From: Jem Kime <>
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:42:01 +0100

the great illustration of this was the (real) Voigtlander 'Kontur' finder.
That, if you looked through it with the other eye closed, showed you only a 
couple of bright lines, the rest of the view was pitch black!
To utilise it properly you kept both eyes open and the finder effectively 
'etched' the framelines over the view as seen through your other eye.
A real 'eye opener' to todays young photographers!

- -----Original Message-----
From:	Frank Filippone []
Sent:	03 October 2000 21:36
Subject:	RE: [Leica] M6 TTL .58 accurate with a Noctilux?

All this discussion over the applicable lens and particular body match....
What, no one keeps his "other" eye open when he shoots?  It is sort of like
asking Ted to use his RIGHT eye to view an image..... if you are brought up
to shoot a particular way, like keeping both those eyes open, then the .58
is a problem......the left and right eyes are viewing too different an
image, and the brain will not overlap the 2 into 1 image..... It works on
the M3 (.91) and barely with the M6/M2.... It would work with the M6HM
.85... but the M6 .58 would create too small an image,..,...

Fo those of you that have not tried this..... the ability to keep the other
eye open allows you to see the entire field in front of you, while
concentrating your attention of shooting on the VF image lines.  YOu
will"see" the picture event unfold before you, outside the VF,,,,,,,try it
for yourself...... especially if you shoot "street" or news photoghrapher

Hmmmmmmmmm...........maybe I am so old that I am in the minority to even
know about this technique?  It was one of the big issues between the Leica
M3 and the Nikon F....

Did I just date myself?......

Frank Filippone