Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/09/29

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Another Photokina Question
From: Jem Kime <>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:24:57 +0100

I tried it, there wasn't any film in the cameras so there wasn't any 
jamming available.
Noise is not hf like the Konica but certainly more akin to the old M winder 
and certainly quieter. The difference between the two speeds was rather 
hard to discern in a hall filled with 5000 people trying to attract your 
attention to their stalls...
It doesn't vibrate as much as the old winder but I'd share Tom's view that 
the grip post looks rather like an afterthought, I suspect it might 
originate from the same stylist responsible for the C1 and the C11, I find 
their simplicity rather insulting, as if we are supposed to be convinced by 
designing something to appear completely flat rather than acknowledging 
that old Bauhaus idiom of 'form follows function'. Here Leica display 'more 
style than content'.

- -----Original Message-----
From:	John Collier []

I was wondering if anyone else tried the M motor. Tom A expressed his
disappointment in the fact that the shutter release bobs up and down but, 
that is internal in the camera, I fully expected it. Did anyone try one and
run it through all the speeds? Any jamming :-)? How noisy is it and is the
noise high frequency (like a Hexar RF) or low frequency (like the M 
Is there a significant difference in noise between the two speeds in noise?
Does it vibrate the camera like the old winder? Any comments would be
greatly appreciated by this person who loves his Ms but misses his MD-4.

John Collier