Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/09/26

[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]

Subject: Re: [Leica] Angenieux
From: "Ken Iisaka" <ken@iisaka.org>
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:02:17 -0700
References: <20000924124350.27172.cpmta@c017.sfo.cp.net> <39CE2F7B.AC090D0@teleport.com> <39CE2F23.498646AB@rabiner.cncoffice.com>

> from the same site:
> "Angenieux invented the inverse telephoto concept with their first
> Angenieux Retrofocus lens designs. This approach makes it possible
> for SLR cameras to mount very wide angle lenses without having to
> lockup the mirror."

The statement can be seen as a bit of a stretch, since motion picture
projectionists often used a negative element "magnifier" in front of their
projection lens to effectively shorten the focal length of the projection
lens.

Angenieux was indeed the first to apply the inverse telephoto configuration
on a 35mm SLR, however.  Its first lenses, 28/3.5 and 35/2.8 were rather
mediocre at best.  One of the problems with the inverse telephoto designs of
the time was that the rear group, often a Triplet, a Tessar or a
double-Gauss configuration themselves did not help increase the distance
between the rearmost element and the film plane.  The early Angenieux used a
positive-positive-negative-positive configuration in the rear group.  The
rear group by themselves did not help increase the back-focus, and the front
negative group had to be quite strong.

Nikon finally ended up with a single negative element up front with its
second or third generation 35/2.8 lens, with a modified Triplet, with an
extra positive element at the rear, which increases the distance between the
rearmost element and the film plane in comparison to a single positive
element of the same power .  The configuration of a negative group up front,
with four groups (each of which could consist of a single element) in the
order of positive-negative-positive-positive is used in essentially all SLR
inverted telephoto lenses today.  At around the same time, Nikon also
introduced
the first commonly available inverted telephoto lens with varying spacing
between
groups primarily for reducing various abberations at close range, the
venerable
24mm/2.8 lens.

In reply to: Message from telyt560@cswebmail.com (Re: [Leica] teleconverter for SL)
Message from Damian Dlugolecki <damian@teleport.com> (Re: [Leica] teleconverter for SL)
Message from Mark Rabiner <mark@rabiner.cncoffice.com> ([Leica] Angenieux)