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Subject: [Leica] Vs: [Leica] Voigtländer Bessa-R ad
From: "Raimo Korhonen" <>
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:21:10 +0200

Some German marketing company owns the Voigtländer name - or is it sold on already?
All the best!
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Lähettäjä: John Coan <>
Vastaanottaja: <>
Päivä: 21. elokuuta 2000 20:45
Aihe: Re: [Leica] Voigtländer Bessa-R ad

>I bought a used Voigtlander 18mm (Cosina) lens for my Leica.  It has "germany" on
>the box and instructions.  I didn't think they had anything to do with Germany any
>Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> BOB KRAMER wrote:
>> ><Snip>
>> > > Have faith, they designed it that way.  Good engineers, those Germans.
>> ><Snip>
>> > Bob Kramer
>> Which reminded me of the two page ad in the new American Photographer I just got
>> for Voigtlander Bessa-R. Don't blame Bob!
>> "Pick up the Bessa-r and learn why many of the 20th century greats, Henri
>> Cartier-Bresson, W. Eugene Smith, etc., were drawn to rangefinders."
>> Illustrated are 6 pieces of equipment on two pages all strategically turned so
>> there is no "Made in Japan" showing. No mention of Cosina anywhere in the ad and
>> i searched it with a fine toothed comb.
>> The BIG Voigtländer logo at the bottom of the second page.
>> Underneath
>> "Exclusive Distribution of THK products, Inc" Long Beach CA.
>> But Japan IS mentioned: as if they are sombody else:
>> "50mm f1.5 Nokton -Extremely fast, with exciting  "bokeh," as the Japanese call
>> background blur, th
>> is sharp, contrasty lens excels ...."
>> There is a LOT of copy in this 2 page ad.
>> I'd call it a lie of omission.
>> If it was my baby somewhere i'd slip in:
>> "And now the Cosina cooperation has brought back the historic Voigtlander name!"
>> It is possible it is THK of Long Beach CA who is responsible for the deception
>> and not Cosina as much.
>> If that were the case I'd hope Cosina would correct it.
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Discover Voigtländer
>>         go to a swap meet