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Subject: Re: [Leica] Screw mount in the modern world
From: "Dan S" <dstate1@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 01:45:16 GMT

If the vision problems are really a big issue than forget about getting ANY 
manual focus camera.  If the M-3 is not good enought the  Bessa will make 
your eyes fall out.

The fact that you have owned Leica's for so long says to me that you care 
about the quality of your equipment.  Going to a cheapo rangefinder from an 
off brand manufacturer will probably be a short term high, but not satifying 
over the long haul.

Get an M, get a diopter correction lens.  Get a used Summicron 35 and 50.  
Be blown away by the results.  Life is too short to use cheap cameras.

Best Wishes
Dan States

>
>Hi, all.  I'm new to the list (digest).  I've been a Leica user since about
>1970. Looking for a little advice on how to upgrade my stuff without going
>totally broke in the process.  Here's my photo-history:
>
>1969-76:  After a brief fling with a Canon SLR, which I didn't care for, a
>camera store owner turned my on to Leica. I had an M-2, 50mm f/2 Dual Range
>Summicron and 90mm f/2.8 Tele-Elmarit, and this is my standard for image
>quality.  I stupidly sold this outfit after college when I was
>socio-economically deprived--a decision I've regretted ever since.
>
>In the early 80s, I later tried a couple of SLRs, but never liked them, and
>I prefer rangefinder focusing.  But the collecting orgy had already driven
>M Leicas out of my reach.  So I ended up with what I call my "1950
>Eisenstadt outfit", which I still have:
>
>Leica IIIf red dial, no self-timer
>Immarect finder (SQUINTY, and that's not a Wetzlar acronym!)
>35mm f/3.5 Summaron
>50mm f/1.4 Nikkor
>90mm f/4 Elmar
>
>All 3 lenses are in good shape 1950s-vintage user lenses (postwar, coated).
>  They work smoothly.  The 35 Summaron is getting cloudy inside.  The 90
>Elmar seems particularly sharp despite some hairline scratches.  The 50/1.4
>Nikkor is a great lens, albeit heavy.  All 3 lenses have some oil on the
>diaphragm blades, but no binding so far.
>
>The IIIf is also in good shape, but the RF is getting dim and the shutter
>seems to lose adjustment every year (right now it's got an accelleration
>problem, and one side of the picture ends up darker than the other).  I'm
>beginning to think that the IIIf is not worth maintaining as a shooter 
>camera.
>
>Aside--I also have an Olympus OM SLR with a few lenses.  Which I like, but
>it's not an available-light people-picture taker like the Leicas are.  But
>then again, neither is a IIIf any more, especially for a glasses wearer.
>
>Up to now, I have believed that even my old LTM lenses were at least as
>good as, maybe a little better than, all but the best SLR lenses.
>Certainly they take good Kodachromes.  But they are getting a bit long in
>the tooth.  I still have a lust for an "M," but they are still hideously
>expensive.
>
>So what do I do?  Are these lenses worth giving a CLA so they can be
>maintained as shooter lenses?  I've been thinking of a number of 
>alternatives:
>
>1. Get a Voigtlander Bessa R, CLA the lenses and continue to use them.
>Maybe replace the 35 Summaron with the Voiglander 35/1.7, which even Erwin
>Puts admits is almost as good as a pre-aspherical 35/2 Summicron.
>
>2. Do the same thing as #1, but get a shooter M with some cosmetic defect
>that brings the price down to mid-three rather than 4 digits .  Get
>non-Leitz M adapters for the screw-mount lenses.
>
>3. Forget RF cameras, store my Leica stuff to help fund my retirement, and
>continue to shoot with my OM stuff.
>
>I'd like to hear what others on the list might do in my place.  What does a
>CLA of old lenses like mine cost? And is it worth doing, or have I reached
>a point of diminishing returns where the money would be better spent on
>newer lenses.
>
>Other relevant info:  I wear glasses, so an M-3 is not such a good option.
>I've always been much better at rangefinder focusing than SLR focusing.  I
>tend toward two kinds of photos--existing-light decisive moment people
>pictures, and more conventional documentation of the natural beauty around
>me.  I used to take B&W for people and Kodachrome for nature.  These days I
>mostly take color prints, but that could change.
>
>Thanks,
>
>--- Peter
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