Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/07/02

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Subject: Re: [Leica] impurities in lens
From: ralph fuerbringer <rof@mac.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 12:48:54 -0400

 back around 1955 nikon had a full page add in all the photo mags stating
that they and they alone now manufacture optical glass  with no bubbles
whatsoever. i then bought their new 35mmf1.8,found a large bubble dead
center(that does effect your image drastically at 22), went to their office
and showed them the bubble.  "all lenses have bubbles" they explained. i
pulled out their ad and after a prolonged conference among themselves they
gave me another  lens. it was and is sensational and was offered in leica mt
at 1/3 list when they discontinued all rf activity a couple years later.
comparison to the first 2 35mm summicrons on same role of film, brick wall
20' away:3rd place,ist canadian summicron; 2nd place original 8-element
gerrman;lst place, the nikon obvious winner w/best micro-contrast.
you could say snap but micro-contrast has panache.


> From: "A.H.SCHMIDT" <horsts@primus.com.au>
> Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 22:37:38 +1000
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] impurities in lens
> 
> 
> 
> Craig Roberts wrote:
> 
>> "How can a bubble in a lens improve image quality?" - Chris
>> 
>> It can't.  It doesn't.  It's a myth (according to Leitz optical engineers).
>> It just doesn't hurt anything.
>> 
>> Craig
>> Boston
> 
> Craig,
> 
> the reason for the "Bubble mystique' stems from the early days of lens
> manufacturing.
> 
> Some of the special glasses used in high quality lenses where very expensive.
> they where used even if bubbles where present, as long as the amount  and the
> size where kept within
> reason. If this was the case, the did not do any harm. Bubbles in a quality
> lens meant that they used high quality glasses, which where top expensive to
> throw away. That's all.
> There is no real reason, why a modern lens today should have any bubbles. The
> process
> to make glasses for lenses today insure a complete bubble free glass in most
> cases.
> 
> dust or dirt particles should not be present in any new lens. If foreign
> materials are found in between the lens elements, then the manufacturing
> method's ate not up to standard and neither is the QA department.
> 
> In older lenses, it is possible to find some (mostly black) minute particles
> mainly around the region of the lens where the diaphragm is located.
> This  can be flakes of dried black paint, from the inside of the lens
> mounting,
> or grease particles from the diaphragm. They are easily cleaned by a competent
> camera repair man.
> 
> Regards, Horst Schmidt
>