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From: Michael Scarpitti <mikescarpitti@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:55:32 -0700 (PDT)

Not quite. The lens resolution/MTF curves for larger
format lenses are poorer, because they must cover the
larger area. In medium format, film flatness becomes a
problem. What you gain is mostly smoother tones, not
sharpness. It's a trade-off.

I have some very large prints made via internegs from
Kodachrome 25 shot of Archie Griffen running with the
ball while he played at OSU. I shot these with the
560/6.8 Telyt in 1975. His head is miniscule in the
slide, (his whole body occupies about 2/3-3/4 of the
height) but you can see the hairs in his moustache.
Top that, bubba! Take such a picture with an 8x10,
bubba!

I recall that Kodak made a VERY large photo-mural from
a Kodachrome slide shot by Ernst Haas (with th 400/6.8
Telyt) that was displayed in Grand Central Station
some years ago (1970?)


Subject: [Leica] Re: >> Michael Scarpitti      
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:00:41 -0700 Status: Normal 
From: Jim Brick <jimbrick@photoaccess.com>   
>> >> You don't NEED larger formats with >>Kodachrome.
>> >> Michael Scarpitti This, simply, is so far from
the truth, it is pathetic. Even an idiot knows that a
4x5 E6 transparency, which is 20 times larger than a
35mm transparency, will enlarge to grainless,
critically sharp prints, far greater in size, than you
can even possibly imagine doing with a 35mm Kodachrome
transparency. Leica lenses or not. A 35mm piece of
film, of any origin, just cannot be stretched to the
equal of a 4x5 piece of film. 

False. Incorrecto. Errata.

And look at the work done with 8x10 cameras.
 
OK, shoot some football with one, bubba!

80x the size of a 35mm original. This is a no brainer!
Maybe "you" personally don't need larger formats. But
my customers, that buy my prints (minimum size is
30x40, up to 48x60) would no longer be my customers if
I used 35mm for these photographs. As my customers
say, "they look so real, you can walk right in." I
have been doing this for a very long time. I paid
dearly for the best possible photographic education.
Brooks Institute of Photography. I know and use all of
the "tricks" for obtaining the sharpest possible
photographs. I have many Leica lenses. I have tons of
Leica-Kodachrome slides. When you get past 20x24, it
is very easy to tell that the original is 35mm.
Period. No amount of weasel wording will change this
fact. So, Mr. Scarpitti, unless you do this routinely,
as I do, you should not make stupid statements like
"You don't NEED larger formats with Kodachrome" as it
clearly shows your depth of knowledge on the subject.
I think Kodachrome is a great film. It is NOT a
panacea by any stretch of the imagination. When you
have "serious" work to do, you use the best tools
available, to do the best job possible, with the least
risk possible. Now days, this means E6. Jim  


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