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Subject: Re: [Leica] Paris & Tripod
From: "Gerry Walden" <gerrywalden@cwcom.net>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:34:16 +0100
References: <v04210100b54ea2e52c84@[147.173.50.157]>

Bearing all this in mind, how did people like Ronis, Doisneau etc. work?
If you can't photograph people, and you can't photograph in public places it
is nearly impossible.   Or do the French close their eyes to this law like
they do to so many others (like the "No Smoking" in restaurants rule - only
last week I saw a couple sat under a 'No Smoking' sign in a restaurant, both
smoking.)   Do you really mean that when I photograph in the Jardin de
Luxembourg I am breaking the law?

Gerry


- ----- Original Message -----
From: Laurent SAMINADAYAR <saminadayar@labs.polycnrs-gre.fr>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: 22 May 2000 09:47
Subject: [Leica] Paris & Tripod


> Hello,
>
> in France, for a reason I could not conceive, photography is
> forbidden in public palces (railways satation for example). But you
> can ask for an authorization at the proper service of Paris mayor.
> Just a little story : a couple of month ago, journal had to pay a
> fine for he did publish photography of ... "les volcans d'Auvergne".
> The same thing happened to the magazine "Réponse Photo" because he
> published picture of the brand new "Bibliothèque François
> Mitterrand": as a creation, the architect owns the copyright for any
> picture of the building.
>
> So the question is: in France, there is a strong attachment for the
> "propriété intelectuelle" (the equivalent of the US copyright). I am
> a university lecturer, and I'm supposed not to make any xerox copy of
> a book to give to my student. In a sense, this country is going
> crazy... All this became really dramatic after Diana's crash in
> Paris. The notions of "private life protection" and "intellectual
> property" make the work of all the photographers more and more
> difficult.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Laurent.
>
>
> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 19:09:16 -0700
> From: Ted Grant <tedgrant@home.com>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Paris tripod rules
> Message-ID: <392896C2.9CDAC61@home.com>
> References: <20000521013803.19492.qmail@web1703.mail.yahoo.com>
>
> Gary Klein wrote:
> >
> > Just curious Ted, did you try to use a monopod?  Would
> > the tripod police have gotten on your case with that?<<<<<<<<<<
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> No I couldn't have used a monopod as it was early evening and I
> wanted to shoot down the Champs Elysee with a time exposure for oncoming
> and cross traffic creating patterns.   As far as the police getting on
> my case with a monopod, I don't think they'd know what it was but they'd
> put it in the "professional  photographer category" only because they
> didn't know any different or better.  And say "No!"
>
> It's easier for a cop to say "NO!" than try to think what harm is being
> done.  Over there or here in North America.
>
> > Just curious, could one get a special professional
> > permit to make a photo?  Or is the rule so hard and
> > fast that one can not use it in the land of the birth
> > of photography?<<<<<<<<<<
>
> I thought maybe we'd have a Paris LUG NUT who could give us the
> definitive answer to the tripod question. Let's hope someone can come up
> with an official Parisian answer.  Then it'd save other Luggers the time
> and pain in the butt of being stopped and wasting their time.
>
> ted
>
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