Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/04/07

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Resurgence of B&W?
From: Ed Buziak <ed.buziak@camera-and-darkroom.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 20:29:42 +0000

Dan,

One of my writers was talking to a Kodak manager about the company's lack of
visibility in advertising their B&W products. The gist of the reply was that
if Kodak spend say (and these figures are not real - simply illustrative)
£10k on B&W product ads they may get a £20k return... but when they spend
£10k on digital prducts they can get a £200+k return. There's no feeling for
the medium like we have... it's all down to numbers.... and binary numbers
at  that!

Ed Buziak / Publisher
Camera & Darkroom magazine

ed.buziak@camera-and-darkroom.co.uk
http://www.camera-and-darkroom.co.uk

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>From: D Khong <dkhong@pacific.net.sg>
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Resurgence of B&W?
>Date: Fri, Apr 7, 2000, 9:31 pm
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>>Big Yellow doesn't seem to agree that there is a resurgence of interest in
>>B&W. I was checking their website for information on Toning B&W papers.
>>Found a list of various papers and the effects of their toners at different
>>dilution but noticed a little asterisk by certain of the papers. Thinking
>>this was going to be some technical exception I scrolled down the page to
>>find that the footnote to ELITE Fine-Art, KODABROMIDE and EKTALURE read:
>>*To be discontinued by year end 1999 or when inventories are depleted.
>>
>>I haven't seen much in the way of an announcement of replacement products,
>>especially not fibre based papers.
>>
>>-- 
>>David Prakel
>>
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>I do not see much in terms of support for B&W paper and chemicals by Kodak
>in my part of the woods either. It has also been a futile attempt
>convincing them to bring in XTOL. I see a lot of Ilford and Agfa B&W papers
>and films. IMO, the marketing gurus at Rochester are concentrating on APS,
>digital and colour films.
>
>Dan K.
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