Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/03/03

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Loading LTM and Sailing
From: John Collier <jbcollier@home.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 12:03:33 -0700

Steve,

I too am quite light on equipment so I understand what you mean. However,
every now and then, The "Hand Of G**" strikes me down and I have learned to
take all reasonable precautions. I know that you must have prepared and
maintained your boats carefully and I am the same way with my cars. If you
do what should be done then, surprisingly to some people, everything goes
well. I think of the leader trimming advice as this kind of prep.

John Collier

> From: "steve lehuray" <icommag@toad.net>
> 
> John,
> I did not wish to sound arrogant but loading my 111G so far has been very
> trouble free the way I have been doing without trimming the leader anymore
> than it already is. I might add that I have all my life had a very delicate
> touch with mechanical things and I don't break things: formula race cars,
> many years and thousands of laps with very rare breakage; ocean single
> handed sailing, thousands of miles in the Atlantic in all kinds of weather
> and nothing has ever broken; my Nikons, have never seen service; my MAC
> always boots up. So, with all due respect to you and Marc and Sherry some
> people are born klutzes and some are blessed with the 'touch'. Loading a
> Leica LTM could be tricky but if I were to 'feel' something amiss I would
> stop and try a different way. I suspect that the 4" trim rule came from
> Leitz antiquity where a Leica 'born klutz' engineer probably had fat
> fingers.
> Steve
> Annapolis
> 
> ----------
>> From: John Collier <jbcollier@home.com>
>> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Loading LTM
>> Date: Fri, Mar 3, 2000, 10:12 AM
>> 
> 
>> I know how Marc and Sherry feel. An expert just cannot get any respect in
>> their hometown. Many times I have told my customers to do (or not to do)
>> something and they have given me that laughing, knowing smile. I wish I
>> could say they were as cheerful later on. I glad to hear that you have had
>> the camera so long that you can disregard advice from people who have
>> decades of experience and are trying to do you a favour!
>> 
>> John Collier
>> 
>> 
>>> From: "steve lehuray" <icommag@toad.net>
>>> 
>>> Marc,
>>> I appreciate the warning, which I have also gotten from Sherry Krauter and
>>> she threatened me with charging me double to clean out the film chips when
>>> the 111G jams up because I have not done the trimming thing. But the way
>>> that I have been loading it has been so simple and trouble free I have had
>>> no motive to try trimming the leader. BTW, I have two M's and several Nikons
>>> but I really love using this LTM even with the dual eyepieces which is very
>>> easy to adapt to. It's a jewel and I am glad I bought it a few months ago.
>>> Steve
>>> Annapolis
>>> 
>>> ----------
>>>> From: Marc James Small <msmall@roanoke.infi.net>
>>>> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Loading LTM
>>>> Date: Thu, Mar 2, 2000, 2:10 PM
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> At 11:35 AM 3/2/2000 -0500, Skip Williams wrote:
>>>>> I never cut my leaders, and I don't have any problem loading my IIIx
>>>>> Leicas.  It's just one more hassle and anal thing, as far as I'm
>>>>> concerned.  (and god knows, I have enough anal habits as it is!)
>>>> 
>>>> Well, if you don't trim the leader, you run a fairly substantial risk of
>>>> having a bit of the leader chip off on a gear and work its way into your
>>>> camera's innards, requiring professional assistance to get it out again.
>>>> 
>>>> Marc
>>>> 
>>>> msmall@roanoke.infi.net  FAX:  +540/343-7315
>>>> Cha robh bas fir gun ghras fir!
>>>> 
>>