Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/03/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Mike, I did assume that you were interested in enlightening this group about a serious topic, such as the use and definition of the "apo" designation. But it seems that would like to score demagogic victory points for an audience. Let me tell you that I am not interested in the type of debate as exercised in the current political campaign. Your remark that Abbe died in 1905 is correct. Your inference that his work is therefore of no relevance for todays optical industry and theory, is illogic to the extreme. Fraunhofer, the one of the Fraunhofer lines, died in 1826, Schott in 1935. Does the moment of time that someone dies imply that his work automatically becomes irrelevant? Then you make the remark that the book of Mr Ray is the universally accepted standard. Universally? Well if you checked this claim by the people who really design lenses, you may be in for a rude awakening. It is simply your choice to continue believing in what you already think you know. Now for the serious part. As I said in my earlier post , the apochromatic aberrations are defined as the deviation between the red and blue lines along the axis of the lens (longitudinal) and the deviation between blue and red lines vertically (that is in image height). These deviations can be calculated quite simple, if laboriously. Abbe could do this already as he new the properties of the glasstypes to calculate with and the trigonometric rules for refraction were known since ages. Mike, these rules were defined in the 18th century, and are still in use and true. I noted in my earlier post that the apochromatic error is caused by the dispersion of glass. So to correct the error you need to use glass with anomalous dispersion. In the case of the achromat, only the C (red) and F (blue) lines are focused to the same location. (that is Fraunhofer again). But D (yellow) is not and g (another blue!) is not. Now it is simple to calculate the sum of the difference between the distances for D and g, relative to C/F. If we do some calculations (just as Abbe did) we can get results like these: (all related to the d line) achromat: deviation for the C line: +5 (in millimicrons), for F: +5, for for G: +22. apochromat with glass types x,y,z: C=+0.9, F=+0.2, G=+5. apochromat with glass types a,b,c: C=-0.4, F=-0.4, G=+0.4. So while it is easy to calculate the apochromatic error, this error has no fixed values as these change when different combinations of glass are used. Now there is no industry norm that first describes which glasstypes you have to use to make a lens an "apo" and secondly describes which numerical deviations are required for such a designation. Now I do think that the small numerical differences between the two apochromats as calculated here, would disqualify one or the other. The Leica guy is partly right. If you stop down the apochromatic error becomes automatically smaller and if it reaches very low values at f/8, you have an apochromatic correction at that aperture. But maybe not at f/4. These calculations and background info is not in Ray's book by the way. If you buy yourself an optical design program (as I did) you get a handbook that informs you how to do these calculations. The whole topic of apo is very interesting and could be very informative for Luggers and other people. The attempt to discredit a post that tries at least to be on topic and to provide some useful background info is not gentleman-like. Erwin