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Subject: RE: RE: RE: [Leica] Re: Bessa R _ Skip Williams reference
From: Jem Kime <jem.kime@cwcom.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:33:18 -0000

It certainly didn't survive, but it was an interesting solution to the 
desire of more than one viewfinding size being offered within the camera. 
Too bad it couldn't have been developed more, maybe the limitations were on 
the physical size of it. You need more space to rotate a cube in a box than 
keep it static.

Jem

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From:	Gaifana@aol.com [SMTP:Gaifana@aol.com]
Sent:	17 January 2000 00:08
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Subject:	Re: RE: RE: [Leica] Re: Bessa R _ Skip Williams reference


Jem - that system didn't survive at Canon, and by the P, the 7 and 7s, it 
was
forgotten. From the ones I've seen at shows with the variable finders, the
view wasn't that hot. Too much going on in there.

In a message dated 1/16/00 5:26:18 PM, jem.kime@cwcom.net writes:

<<
Maybe I was hoping for too much! Looking at the pictures I've seen, this
was what it appeared like to me. The appearance of the optics seen inside
the viewfinder window from the front shows more optical 'gubbins' than I'd
have associeted with a 'normal' system, I put that together with the frame
selector and made an inspired guess. I haven't seen any spec. yet on the
Bessa-R (do you have a source?)
The ability of Cosina/Voigtlander is quite capable of reproducing that
design I'm sure.

Jem

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From:   Gaifana@aol.com [SMTP:Gaifana@aol.com]
Sent:   16 January 2000 20:14
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject:    Re: RE: [Leica] Re: Bessa R _ Skip Williams reference

Jem, are you sure that's a variable mag viewfinder on the Bessar-R? It
looks
more from the lever's position on the top plate that it is only a
frame-selector (on the Canon, the lever is closer to being right on top of
the finder). Besides, if the magnification were changing, wouldn't it stand 
to reason that the 90mm would necessitate higher magnification than the 35? 
On the Canons, the 35mm was 0,75x, the 50mm 1.0x and the longer lenses
1.5x.
The only spec for the Bessa shows 1.0x at all lengths. I think reproducing
a
41-year-old design as complex as the VI-L's finder may be hoping for too
much. : )



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