Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/12/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF3F5E.424D4860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, KPeters, that post came from someone who purchased a G1 system - and then dumped it at a big loss and went back to Leica. Yes, the glass is truly excellent. I don't have the bench tests to be able to say the lenses are the equal of Leica lenses, but looking at the photos I took with them, I'd say they are. However - calling the camera a rangefinder is really a bit of an advertising joke. It is no more a rangefinder than any of the Olympus stylus cameras, or anyother autofocus point and shoot. Not only is it an autofocus camera with a viewfinder window and no rangefinder, but it's "manual focus" is really false advertising, in that it simply lets you push buttons back and forth to line up glowing lights. Only one of the lenses is faster than f 2.8, which really cripples the system in terms of available light photography. And in the G1 the autofocus was really pathetic. Yes, I know, it's greatly improved with the G2. It is a terrific P&S system that allows one to do far more than one could with any other P&S. And if I had enough money to finish filling out my M system and then some, I'd buy a G2 as a carry camera. But one doesn't need much in the way of photographic sophistication to use one - all one has to do it read part of the owner's manual and bang away. And, yes, if one does know something about photography, one can take some damn fine photos with a G2. B. D. Colen -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of KPETERS Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 12:47 AM To: Leica List Subject: [Leica] re: Konica and Contax "Because - and this is only based on what I've read, not hands-on >experience - the Konica is a real camera, while the G2 is a really snazy P&S >with interchangable lenses." What kind of crap is this? Obviously someone who knows NOTHING about the G series contax cameras. They are definately not "point and shoot". They are worthy rangefinders that require some concept of photography to make them work properly. The lenses are comparable to Leica lenses in most situations and the finish and functioning is intuitive to one who knows photography. They don't even offer "full automated" function-- you have to set at least the aperature, etc. I have shot many many cameras, both old and new, and only a few approach the "feel" of an M6, but the G series cameras are one... Kpeters - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF3F5E.424D4860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D800471020-05121999>Well,=20 KPeters, that post came from someone who purchased a G1 system - and = then dumped=20 it at a big loss and went back to Leica.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D800471020-05121999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D800471020-05121999>Yes,=20 the glass is truly excellent. I don't have the bench tests to be able to = say the=20 lenses are the equal of Leica lenses, but looking at the photos I took = with=20 them, I'd say they are.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D800471020-05121999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D800471020-05121999>However - calling the camera a rangefinder is = really a=20 bit of an advertising joke. It is no more a rangefinder than any of the = Olympus=20 stylus cameras, or anyother autofocus point and shoot. Not only is it an = autofocus camera with a viewfinder window and no rangefinder, but it's = "manual=20 focus" is really false advertising, in that it simply lets you push = buttons back=20 and forth to line up glowing lights.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D800471020-05121999>Only=20 one of the lenses is faster than f 2.8, which really cripples the system = in=20 terms of available light photography.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D800471020-05121999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D800471020-05121999>And in=20 the G1 the autofocus was really pathetic. Yes, I know, it's greatly = improved=20 with the G2.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D800471020-05121999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D800471020-05121999>It is=20 a terrific P&S system that allows one to do far more than one could = with any=20 other P&S. And if I had enough money to finish filling out my M = system and=20 then some, I'd buy a G2 as a carry camera.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D800471020-05121999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D800471020-05121999>But=20 one doesn't need much in the way of photographic sophistication to use = one - all=20 one has to do it read part of the owner's manual and bang away. And, = yes, if one=20 does know something about photography, one can take some damn fine = photos with a=20 G2.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D800471020-05121999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN = class=3D800471020-05121999>B. D.=20 Colen</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D800471020-05121999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D800471020-05121999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20 owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us=20 [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]<B>On Behalf Of</B>=20 KPETERS<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 06, 1999 12:47 = AM<BR><B>To:</B> Leica=20 List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Leica] re: Konica and = Contax<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV>"Because - and this is only based on what I've read, not=20 hands-on<BR>>experience - the Konica is a real camera, while the G2 = is a=20 really snazy P&S<BR>>with interchangable lenses."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What kind of crap is this? Obviously someone who knows = NOTHING=20 about the G series contax cameras. They are definately not = "point and=20 shoot". They are worthy rangefinders that require some = concept of=20 photography to make them work properly. The lenses are = comparable to=20 Leica lenses in most situations and the finish and functioning is = intuitive to=20 one who knows photography. They don't even offer "full = automated"=20 function-- you have to set at least the aperature, etc. I = have=20 shot many many cameras, both old and new, and only a few approach the = "feel"=20 of an M6, but the G series cameras are one...=20 Kpeters</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF3F5E.424D4860--