Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/11/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]No doubt the people people losing their jobs in Solms (whether it's called cut backs or layoffs) will be happy to know that the R sales declines of its new heavily invested R&D signature product has so little to do with their non employment. I wonder if they agree with Erwin. It's also nice to know Erwin does not defend Leica against all odds, yet I don't recall any Erwin post concerning Leica management or policies, where he did not defend or agree with them. It seems to me that cool analysis demands freedom from a single point of view. Stephen Gandy Erwin Puts wrote: > There is a strong impression with the currently active contributors > of this list, that he downward trend of the R-sales is the cause of > the alleged financial troubles of Leica. Can this impression be > supported by facts? > I collected some figures from the Leica financial reports from 1995 > till now. Read with me. > In 95/96 turnover was 240 M (in Dmarks). profit was 9.5 M and the M > and R turnover were 70 and 43 M > In 96/97 turnover was 266 M (in Dmarks). profit was 9 M and the M > and R turnover were 75 and 65 M > In 97/98 turnover was 280 M (in Dmarks). loss was -17 M and the M > and R turnover were 73 and 67 M > In 98/99 turnover was 265 M (in Dmarks). loss was -14 M and the M > and R turnover were 70 and 42 M > In Q1 of this year turnover was 57 M (in Dmarks). loss was -2 M and > the M and R turnover were 16 and 9 M > > Now these figures are of course incomplete. But the hypotheis is that > the R sales are responsible for the current losses. > Look at the 96/97 and 97/98 figures. M and R had the almost identical > turnover in both years. Still in 96/97 a profit was recorded and one > year later a heavy loss, but with identical R sales. > In 95/96 and 98/99 we have two comparable years again: identical M > and R sales (70 and 42), but a profit of 9.5 versus a loss of -14. > If we project the Q1 figures to a full year (the Q1 is a traditional > underperformer, so you should use a factor of 4.5 to get to full year > figures) and we should accept the Board's view that there will be a > slight profit > Turnover 257 M, profit 1 M, turnover of M is 72 and of R is 40. Let > us accept a still lower figure of the R sales, let us say 36 M. > > It is evident that the simple claim that the R sales is the sole and > direct cause for the financial troubles of the company cannot be > upheld. There is no correlation in the 5 year time span between R > sales and profit/loss figures. See it for yourself; > Year R sales Profit/loss > 95/96 43 +9.5 > 96/97 65 +9 > 97/98 67 -17 > 98/99 42 -14 > (99/20 36 +2) > > I am not as some of this list claim a blind admirer of Leica and its > products. I am a blind admirer of facts and a cool analysis of these > facts to support claims. And as wild guesses are made, however > plausible on first sight, that do not stand the scrutiny of the > facts, I feel obliged to point that out. > My position may look like defending Leica against all odds. No I am > not general Custer. > Of course I do know that the R line is selling below expectations. > And I am aware of the fact that AF in a high end SLR is for many a > desirable feature. > > This BTW is my last post to this list. > > Erwin >