Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/11/10

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Big bucks
From: "Francesco Sanfilippo" <fls@san.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:19:51 -0800

Ah....I missed the initial portion of the thread then, and apologize.
I thought y'all were discussing archiving digital images for web display.

Francesco Sanfilippo




- ----- Original Message -----
From: B. D. Colen <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 11:52 AM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Big bucks


> Francesco - I agree with you that it's not a "big bucks" problem, but if
one
> is planning to print these files, rather than display them, you're
probably
> talking at least 5MB each, not 200KB...
> B. D.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Francesco
> > Sanfilippo
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 11:16 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Big bucks
> >
> >
> > That's still NOT big bucks.  65,000 images at 200KB each would fill
> > exactly 20 CD-R discs, with 3,250 images fitting on each disc.  You
> > can buy a blank CD-R (in quantity) for under $2.00.  This comes out
> > to be a total expense of $40 every time you want to duplicate your
> > entire set, and this fugure would increase by $2.00 every time you
> > add another 3,250 images to your portfolio.
> >
> > Average the CD cost over 5 years and it costs you $8 per annum.
> > Of course, you need a CD-R burner, which can be had nowadays for
> > $200.  Average it over a 5 year period and it costs you $40 per year.
> > This is a total cost of $48 annually to maintain your digital archive.
> > If we can afford Leica, we can afford $4 a month to archive images,
> > n'est-ce pas?
> >
> > Francesco Sanfilippo
> > fls@san.rr.com
> > Webmaster, System Administrator,
> > http://www.photorealm.com/
> > http://www.glossymedia.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jonathan Borden <jborden@mediaone.net>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 2:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Big bucks
> >
> >
> > > Mike Johnston wrote:
> > > > >>>Worried about the longevity of the CD? So copy it
> > every couple of
> > > > years.
> > > > We're not talking big bucks here.<<<
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh yes we are. I've made over 65,000 negatives in my
> > life, and I'm only
> > > > 42. (And not even a terribly heavy shooter.)
> > > >
> > > > --Mike
> > > >
> > >     One of the great things about Leica equipment is that
> > nothing becomes
> > > obsolete. This is in stark distinction to digital
> > electronic equipment
> > which
> > > is designed to become obsolete in "Internet time". In my
> > mind, Leica is
> > the
> > > direct opposite to digital. Canon is where digital is at
> > (and there are
> > also
> > > many great things about being digital). It is no big deal
> > to change your
> > > lens mount every few years because you plan to buy a
> > completely new system
> > > every few years regardless. So the two cameras which spend
> > the most time
> > > sitting on my shelf are my Canon F-1 and my Sony Mavica,
> > the F-1 because
> > it
> > > is sooo much louder than the EOS and has no real benefit
> > except that it
> > does
> > > work without batteries (but I already have my M6 for that
> > purpose :-) And
> > > the Mavica which serves its only purpose when I need to
> > e-mail pictures to
> > > someone, or if I am giving a talk and I need to digitize
> > something onto my
> > > laptop (so it is really the combo of a Polaroid and a
> > compact scanner).
> > >
> > >     Even though CDs are somewhat cheap (say $1-2) for
> > writeable, that's
> > not
> > > the point. Who wants to deal with figuring out what to
> > rewrite? I just had
> > a
> > > terrific ciba print made of a 15 year old kodachrome
> > discovered at the
> > > bottom of a box! In the same box is a large computer tape I
> > have no idea
> > of
> > > how to deal with. oh sure I *could* find a VAX somewhere
> > and transfer it
> > > onto a CD but who wants to deal with that. The chrome is
> > usable in the
> > same
> > > format as on the day it was created. The Omega D2 enlarger I use is
> > probably
> > > 25 years old and still uses the same format lightbulbs.
> > >
> > > Jonathan Borden
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>