Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/10/27

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Subject: Re: [Leica] More on cropping! Flames afire! (and black edges)
From: Rob Schneider-Laura Tully <robslaurat@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:00:21 -0400

Oops,  I didn't make myself clear.  Gee, that never happened before . . .
When I said, "Amazing what you can do with a piece of matte board!", I meant, with a properly trimmed piece of matte board to lay in your easel opening you can burn in a "false" black edge.  My idea
was/is to have prints with consistent 2X3 aspect and a black edge, even if some of the images have been slightly cropped.

Say your "window" is 6X9 and you print a 1/8-inch black line.  Take a 6X9 piece of black matte board and trim 1/8 inch off one long edge and 1/8 inch off one short edge.  Print your image.  Then lay
the matte board in the easel window, touching a corner.  Turn on the enlarger (better yet turn on a 15 watt bulb) and carefully move the board so that it touches in turn all four corners.  Almost
instant black line!  For added "authenticity" bang the corners of the matte board a little before using it to round them slightly.  Ever noticed how the frame edges in a black-line print are never
absolutely sharp 90 degrees?

I thank Costa Manos (Magnum), a staunch proponent of full-frame 35mm with black edge printing, for the above technique.

Rob Schneider
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Mark Rabiner wrote:

> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:50:09 -0700
> From: Mark Rabiner <mrabiner@concentric.net>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] More on cropping! Flames afire! (and black edges)
>
> Rob Schneider-Laura Tully wrote:
> >
> > Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:33:35 +0000
> > From: <michaeljohnston@ameritech.net>
> ><Snip>   As Mike noted earlier, look at the black
> > edge of HCB's Gare St.-Lazare photo.  The neg is cropped, but the
> > image has a black edge.  Amazing what you can do with a piece of matte
> > board!
> >
> > Rob Schneider
>
> They've had mat board out now which is white on the outside but with a black
> core (a reverse Oreo).
> So in use however you cut it it gives you a black border but with no white
> border around the print so you have to sign the mat which goes against logic for
> me. It's probably not considered Archival but would be good for a larger display print.
> Mark Rabiner