Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/09/25

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Subject: Re: [Leica] New Provia, now E100VS and Skintones
From: "Gary D. Whalen" <whalen@circle.net>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 08:48:22 -0400

Robert,

    Let me get this straight.  You had an opportunity to shoot two beautfiul
models and you opted to use the 400 2.8.  You opted to get FARTHER away from
them!  I think I might have used my 19 :").

Gary

Robert G. Stevens wrote:

> Harrison:
>
> I was shooting some outside portraits at a seminar last weekend and I
> happend to have ahlf a roll of E100VS in the camera.  Although the images
> are mediocre, it does give an idea of the skin tones on E100VS.  They are
> on the bottom of my misc page of my website.  The fox picture was also on
> E100VS. BTW, the fox was shot with the 105-280 at about 280 and the girls
> were shot with the 400 F2.8 at F2.8 or F4 with a fill flash.
>
>  I liked the E100VS so much when I tried it in Calgary a few months ago
> that I ordered in a 100 foot roll of it.  I think it deals better with the
> shadows than Velvia.  In the fox picture, you can see some detail in his
> dark den behind him.  With Velvia, this would be inky black.
>
> http://home.istar.ca/~robsteve/photography/Misc.htm
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
>
> At 10:49 AM 9/24/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >Peter,
> >
> >I am still shooting a lot of Velvia on things that do not include
> >people...really great for that.  But have gotten tired of the "Pumpkin
> >Head" syndrome that velvia gives most cacusains....I have since switched
> >to E100VS...really like the look of that stuff even better than the
> >E100SW, IMHO.  But with all the hype on the new provia (refering to the
> >hype from Fuji here not the LUL comments--spoke to BillPrudner this week
> >and he was going on and on about the new Provia....maybe Sunday at the
> >Panthers game I'll see my buddy from Fuji and talk him out of a few rolls
> >of it.) I am curious as to how it renders skin tones.
> >
> >Did a side by side shoot last week of students in a High School nursing
> >class for one of our Magazines.  I lit the scene with White Lightning
> >Ultra 1200's and shot first E100VS then Velvia...the winner for skin tone
> >and clean whites with saturated colors was E100VS...even my fellow
> >photographer who thinks Velvia is the only film made agreed and we
> >ordered 50 rolls of VS..still ordered 200 rolls of Velvia also...but at
> >least now I have an option when shooting people.
> >
> >On 9/24/99 9:23 AM Kotsinadelis, Peter (Peter) wrote:
> >
> >>Harrison,
> >>
> >>Hope you don;t mind but I would also like to answer this.  The E100VS is
> >>good but too too saturated when you include skies.  The Provia 100F is more
> >>natural and renders a real blue sky (as opposed to a super saturated blue
> >>sky produced by VS). Overall the colroing is slightly less than E100SW but
> >>very accurate.
> >>
> >>Peter K
> >
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Harrison McClary
> >email: harrison@mcclary.net
> >http://www.mcclary.net
> >preview my book: http://www.volmania.com
> >
> >
> >