Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/07/21

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Subject: Re: [Leica] delta 3200 - ilfords developer
From: Christer Almqvist <chris@almqvist.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:00:13 +0000

I thought you may want to read this too. My comments were certainly not
meant to hurt...

Subject:
               Re: Delta 3200 development.
         Date:
               Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:27:15 GMT
        From:
               lesmcl@scotborders.co.uk (Les McLean)
 Organization:
               Scotland-On-Line
 Newsgroups:
               rec.photo.darkroom
   References:
               1 , 2 , 3




For those who appear to question my integrity and character, Christer
Almqvist and John Douglas please note. Ilford do not pay me to test
their new products and they accept that my views are based on my own
standards and taste. Clearly, being based in America you will not know
of my reputation in the UK as a photographer and writer who voices an
honestly held view regardless of who may be upset by the opinion. I
take the view that when testing materials for companies such as Ilford
my job is to represent all those photographers who have to eventually
work with the products I am testing.

3200 was tested in Ilford's DDX and Microphen, Kodak's D76, Xtol and
HC110, Agfa's Rodinal and Fotospeed's FD30 and FD10. The final
judgement was made based on tonal range, grain structure and size in
the final prints I made from the negatives made and developed in the
solutions listed above. I spent several months using this film on
different subjects ranging from low light street photography, studio
still life, sports photography and landscape in very bright lighting
conditions. The film was rated from 200 ISO to 25000 ISO and developed
at many different dilutions and temperatures in the solutions listed
above.
My own choice of developer which gave the best tonal range and grain
structure was based on a visual assesment of the print rather than
using instruments to measure densities etc., After all we view prints
with the eye not instruments. As a matter of interest the next best
result was obtained from Kodak's Xtol which was not too far behind DDX
in terms of grain size and negative contrast and Ilford were given
that information too.

In future please check the facts before you question the integrity and
character of contributors to the forum.
Regards
Les McLean
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:43:01 GMT, spectrum@spectrumphoto.com
(SPECTRUM) wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:33:58 +0000, Christer Almqvist
><chris@almqvist.net> wrote:
>
>>well, if you tested for ilford, should we be surprised that their developer
>>came out tops?
>
>       Ummm, yes ?
>
>       A better question would have been to have asked what other
>developers were used in comparison as well as what were the deciding
>criteria and how were the results determined.
>
>       But of course that wouldn't have a character reference in it
>would it ?
>
>Regards,
>
>John S. Douglas          Spectrum Photographic Inc
>Photographer           http://www.spectrumphoto.com
>Darkroom processes, formulas, facts and information.
>Weddings,portraits,commercial and stock photography
>



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