Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/07/20

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Subject: Re: [Leica] M4P Chrome versions
From: Lucien <lucien@ubi.edu>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:05:27 +0200

Peter Kristoffersen wrote:
 
> Does anybody of you know anything about M4P Chrome versions? How many was
> produced in comparison with the black versions? How much more is these
> cameras worth, and are they considered "users" or "collectibles"?

Peter,

M4-P Chrome (plain) are collectibles.

1546351-1545300 M4-P            80-81
1546351-1552350 M4-P            81
1552351-1552884 M4-P            81
1562351-1564350 M4-P            82
1586351-1590350 M4-P            82
1604551-1606550 M4-P            82-83
1618551-1620550 M4-P Chrome     83        = 2000 Ex.
1620551-1622550 M4-P            83-84
1636551-1637550 M4-P Chrome     83        = 1000 Ex.
1642551-1643750 M4-P            84   **
1649251-1651250 M4-P            84-85
1691951-1692950 M4-P            86

Total Chrome = 3000 - 2500 engraved'1913-1983' = 500* plain chrome.
*Of which, I guess a few are with the M6 (flush) windows.
Thats how Ghester Sartorius find that number in his 
"Identifying Leica Cameras" ISBN 0-8174-4026-7 .
Obviously this is not correct because whe know at least 5
chrome M4-P outside of the two chrome batch. But anyway,
it's a rare camera.

In the Leica International Price Guide (7th edition)

M4-P Black              = 1000 $  R3    +/-  22 000 Ex.
M4-P Chrome             = 3000 $  R6    500 Ex.
M4-P Chrome 70th Anniv. = 2500 $  R6    2500 Ex.

R3 = Unusual Possible availability   =   3-6 month
R6 = Very rare availability          =   once in 2 years

In Belgium a M4-P Black is more R2 (slightly unusual 14 days)
and a M4-P Chrome (plain) is more R8 (I have seen two in 13 years)



Lucien