Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/07/07

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Subject: Re: [Leica] BLUG
From: Chandos Michael Brown <>
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 18:23:43 -0400

Hey, Pascal, I know what it means, "literally" (pardon the bad phonetic 
rendition--my Dutch dictionary's in the office); what puzzles non-native 
speakers is *when* to use it.  Perhaps the rules are clear if you grow up 
with them.  Lots of small social interactions in the Netherlands are 
accompanied by "alstublieft."  I spend a year among Dutch academics (which 
may be a bad sign in itself) and never received what I thought was a 
coherent explanation of why it was suitable in one case and not 
another--though I also think that this is caught up in the strange class 
politics of the Netherlands, where accents and habits of speech often 
demarcate social standing..  I did learn, however, that it's not synonymous 
with "you're welcome," though often used where American's would say such a 

In any event, this is dramatically off topic and I'm not so great a student 
of languages as to want to push this too far.

At 11:58 PM 7/7/1999 +0200, you wrote:
>On 07-07-1999 21:56 Chandos Michael Brown wrote:
> >And then there's the absolutely occult "austjeblieft" (sic), which only the
> >Dutch and the Illuminati know when to use properly.
>alstublieft = if you please (literally !)
>See my photo pages at
>Who else than Leica could make a camera like the R8 ?
>With that unique design and above all: that ergonomics.
>Nikon ? Canon ? Nobody but Leica !
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Chandos Michael Brown
Assoc. Prof., History and American Studies
College of William and Mary