Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/07/07

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Subject: [Leica] Quem's Post
From: Gary Elshaw <>
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 02:17:31 +1200

Hi all,

Quem has been a member of the LUG for quite a while, and recently sent a
post asking for support from people here. Now whether he/she gets that
support from members of the LUG or not is up to the individual member, in
much the same way as the researcher who asked members to fill out the Leica
questionaire. It is your choice.

Many have said previously that political issues don't belong on the LUG.
Maybe that's fair enough, but what i do resent is the response that Luggers
have given to what i believe was a sincere request for help from Quem. I
don't mean to pick on you Jim B, but saying you've consigned the poster to
the realms of your " "filter-to-trash" list from now until hell freezes
over." is a little unfair on the merits of one post.

Perhaps not in Quem's defence, but from my own feelings, the people on this
list have actually begun to mean a lot to me. And sometimes conversations
have very little to do with Leicas and photography, for this i say good.
And sometimes, some of us turn to, be it the LUG, people we feel we have an
affinity with for help. For this i also say good.

Apologies for the longwinded 2 cents.

"The difficulty now is that unexceptional adults believe the loss of youthful
dreaming is itself "growing up," as though adulthood were the passive
conclusion to a doomed activity and hope during adolescence."

                'The Uses of Disorder: Personal Identity and City Life'
                                            -- Richard Sennett
Gary Elshaw
Post-Grad Film Student
Victoria University
New Zealand