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Subject: [Leica] copmarison Ricoh 28 and Elmarit 28.
From: Erwin Puts <imxputs@knoware.nl>
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:59:42 +0200

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A comparison of the 28mm Ricoh GR and the Elmarit-M and R versions of the 28mm.

The Ricoh (#02818) is a diminuative lens. The chrome version with the
focusing aid is very Leica like. Mechanically it showed a slight axial play
in the distance ring mechanism and a very slight decentring.
At full aperture (2.8) the lens shows a medium to high contrast, with  some
light fall off  in the corners. In the center very fine detail is recorded
with medium microcontrast and slightly soft edges.  Extremely fine detail
is just recorded with very soft outlines. This type of performance holds on
axis over a circle with a 4 mm radius (an area of 8 to 10mm diameter). In
the field (the outer zones) fine detail is recorded with high contrast. The
edges however show colour finges and there is also a trace of astigmatism.
Fine and very fine detail is  fuzzy, but just visible.  The corners are
very soft with outlines of large subject detail clearly visible.
At f/4,0 the image crispens and the overall contrast becomes high. On axis
the edges of fine detail clearly sharpen,. In the field the improvement is
slight. At 5.6 the overall image is still a bit soft in the field. At f/8.0
we get an excellent image with extremely fine detail clearly  resolved,
with a faint trace of softness. At f/16.o the performance drops.
The close-up performance ( 1 meter) is identical to the infinity setting.

The Elmarit-M 2.8/28mm (#3793205) at full aperture shows a high contrast
image with very fine detail crisply rendered. On axis over an image area 0f
10 to 12mm diameter) the extremely fine datail is very clearly visible with
some softness at the edges.  In the field (outer zones) the contrast drops,
and the outlines of large objects show a very faint colour fringe.
Extremely fine detail is recorded with good clarity, with a slight
fuzzyness at the edges. This performance holds into the corners where
extremely fine detail is still visible, but with  fuzzy  edges.
At f/4,0 the image crispens in the detail rendition. Extremely fine detail
is now clearly resolved with great clarity and sharp edges  and exceedingly
fine detail is now crisply resolved on axis, with some fuzzyness in the far
corners.
At 5.6 the outer zones improve a bit, but the center is already past its
optimum.
Close-up performance is equal to the infinity setting. No decentring could
be detected.

The Elmarit-R 2,8/28mm (#3701134) is almost identical in performance to the
M version. The R version exhibits slightly more chromatic aberrations and
the performance in the field is a bit lower. Generally however this lens is
equal to the M version. Close-up performance till 30cm gives excellent
imagery comparable to the infinity setting. Again no decentring.

Conclusion: the use of aspherics (two surfaces ) in the Ricoh is not
automatically  a 'free' ticket to best perfomances. We have been evaluating
here absolute performance and on this quite lofty Olympic heights the Ricoh
is clearly not as good as both Elmarits, which deliver superior imagery. To
stay for a while in this comparative field. The Ricoh is better (by a good
margin) than the first and second generation of  the Elmarit 28mm M lenses.
The third generation of the Elmarit however shows better performance in all
areas, as of course does the current (fourth ) generation. Absolutely
speaking: the Ricoh at 5.6 and 8.0  is almost as good (but not quite) as
the Elmarit 's at 2,8.

But we can also look at the performance from a slightly more casual
perspective. If we assume that the Ricoh and Elmarit pictures will be taken
on colourneg films or higher speed B&W films and enlarged to let us say the
ubiquitous 20x25cm format, then the performance differences shrink. Of
course on close scrutinization the overall softer rendering of the Ricoh
will show. In the center area however the margin between the Ricoh and the
Leica  lenses is under these conditions is not that big.Stopped down to 5,6
or 8.0 you would be hard pressed to notice any difference.

There is one area where the Ricoh has an advantage: the mechanics of the
separate viewfinder. It is a solid chrome metal piece of work. Optically
the finder distorts quite a bit: that mars the joy a bit.
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<fontfamily><param>Times</param>A comparison of the 28mm Ricoh GR and
the Elmarit-M and R versions of the 28mm.


The Ricoh (#02818) is a diminuative lens. The chrome version with the
focusing aid is very Leica like. Mechanically it showed a slight axial
play in the distance ring mechanism and a very slight decentring. 

At full aperture (2.8) the lens shows a medium to high contrast, with 
some light fall off  in the corners. In the center very fine detail is
recorded with medium microcontrast and slightly soft edges.  Extremely
fine detail is just recorded with very soft outlines. This type of
performance holds on axis over a circle with a 4 mm radius (an area of
8 to 10mm diameter). In the field (the outer zones) fine detail is
recorded with high contrast. The edges however show colour finges and
there is also a trace of astigmatism. Fine and very fine detail is 
fuzzy, but just visible.  The corners are very soft with outlines of
large subject detail clearly visible.

At f/4,0 the image crispens and the overall contrast becomes high. On
axis the edges of fine detail clearly sharpen,. In the field the
improvement is slight. At 5.6 the overall image is still a bit soft in
the field. At f/8.0  we get an excellent image with extremely fine
detail clearly  resolved, with a faint trace of softness. At f/16.o the
performance drops. 

The close-up performance ( 1 meter) is identical to the infinity
setting. 


The Elmarit-M 2.8/28mm (#3793205) at full aperture shows a high
contrast image with very fine detail crisply rendered. On axis over an
image area 0f 10 to 12mm diameter) the extremely fine datail is very
clearly visible with some softness at the edges.  In the field (outer
zones) the contrast drops, and the outlines of large objects show a
very faint colour fringe. Extremely fine detail is recorded with good
clarity, with a slight fuzzyness at the edges. This performance holds
into the corners where extremely fine detail is still visible, but with
 fuzzy  edges. 

At f/4,0 the image crispens in the detail rendition. Extremely fine
detail is now clearly resolved with great clarity and sharp edges  and
exceedingly fine detail is now crisply resolved on axis, with some
fuzzyness in the far corners. 

At 5.6 the outer zones improve a bit, but the center is already past
its optimum. 

Close-up performance is equal to the infinity setting. No decentring
could be detected.


The Elmarit-R 2,8/28mm (#3701134) is almost identical in performance to
the M version. The R version exhibits slightly more chromatic
aberrations and the performance in the field is a bit lower. Generally
however this lens is equal to the M version. Close-up performance till
30cm gives excellent imagery comparable to the infinity setting. Again
no decentring.


Conclusion: the use of aspherics (two surfaces ) in the Ricoh is not
automatically  a 'free' ticket to best perfomances. We have been
evaluating here absolute performance and on this quite lofty Olympic
heights the Ricoh is clearly not as good as both Elmarits, which
deliver superior imagery. To stay for a while in this comparative
field. The Ricoh is better (by a good margin) than the first and second
generation of  the Elmarit 28mm M lenses. The third generation of the
Elmarit however shows better performance in all areas, as of course
does the current (fourth ) generation. Absolutely speaking: the Ricoh
at 5.6 and 8.0  is almost as good (but not quite) as the Elmarit 's at
2,8.  


But we can also look at the performance from a slightly more casual
perspective. If we assume that the Ricoh and Elmarit pictures will be
taken on colourneg films or higher speed B&W films and enlarged to let
us say the ubiquitous 20x25cm format, then the performance differences
shrink. Of course on close scrutinization the overall softer rendering
of the Ricoh will show. In the center area however the margin between
the Ricoh and the Leica  lenses is under these conditions is not that
big.Stopped down to 5,6 or 8.0 you would be hard pressed to notice any
difference. 


There is one area where the Ricoh has an advantage: the mechanics of
the separate viewfinder. It is a solid chrome metal piece of work.
Optically the finder distorts quite a bit: that mars the joy a bit. 
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