Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/04/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On QC, Marc among others wrote, very reasonable: >What I am trying to say is three things: > >- -- Bitching to the LUG doesn't do a thing, and only adds a layer of stress >and tension to a list which already is stressed and tense enough.>>>> > >- -- Happy folks don't complain, and, hence, don't make it into the >statistical sample group. > - -> -- The LUG, in any event, is just too small a sample from which to derive >any concrete conclusions. Let me add and corroborate: Leica does not monitor this list, indeed too much junk ( we are ALL responsible for this junk are we not?) and indeed too small a sample to be significant. So let us be realistic: the Lug is a loosely coupled group of users of Leica equipment, whose experience runs from heavy duty (a very few) to casual (most). The quality of Leica equipment is now higher than in the past, tolerances are tighter now than in the past. But Leica now is a small company with small production runs and they rely for a large part on subcontractors for many components that have to be made in small quantities. Not every manufacturer is willing to tool machinery for a small quantity and Leica therefor has to be very selective: small producion runs and excellent quality for a reasonable price is difficult to find. The pressure plate problem is a case: indeed one person in the factory that produces the plates fell ill and had to be replaced for a while by another person who apparently was not as skilled. Failures of this kind are unavoidable. They are a nuisance and should be eliminated as soon as possible. Leica does this: repair or replacement is done in a fair way. Of course we might expect the impossible from the company. Leica charges premium prices and we as customers are entitled to very high quality products. This expectance is reasonable and justified. If in 5 years of production (about 60 thousand M bodies) one small batch of perhaps 100 has a faulty pressure plate, what does that signify? Lower quality or bad QC? Not at all. To get to logical conclusions we must start with correct premisses. There are no bean counters in the company: just serious analysts who look critically at every production stage to look for quality improvements and any cost cutting that is feasible. The restructuring that got noticed in the press is old news for Leica insiders. The company is now headed by two directors and has a new layer of management of ten persons who are in charge of ten large, clearly structured departments that are streamlined from scores of historically grown almost feudal structures. Some heads will roll (or have been rolled). Again do not read too much in scant information and try to stop producing information noise. Leica products are checked on a great many aspects and in many stages of the production. That does not imply that every part is individually checked. Alignment of the bayonet mount to the film guides is very important as is the curve of the rangefinder cam as is the accuracy of the exposure meter. All these parts are checked. But a spring for the tension of the shutter is not. So that might fail some time. QC wrong? Bean counters? Please be reasonable. The grinding of lens surfaces to 1/10000 mm is not new nor a significant item. Many glass companies can do this. CNC on the other hand is very significant if combined with info about lens design and production technology. Leica lens mounts nowadays are better than in the past (better material, better machined to tighter tolerances. Lens mounts now weight less than in the past. Does that mean a lowering of quality? No there is less material in a lens mount. Why? In the past every single lens or lens group was set in its own subassembly. And these were put together in the final outer casting. Looks pretty good. Any many will infer that this is a token of high quality. It is not. The reason to have these subassemblies is simple: to adjust the decentring of the individual lens elements during assembly. Lens elements could not be produced with sufficient accuracy to put them directly in one mount. Now this is possible with better technology. Advantages: less material, less labour. Again: bean counters? No just an improvement made possible by better technology and production methods. One person came on the list and very quickly went away as he noticed that there was much noise here. The active persons on this list are a minority of all persons who subscribe. I assume that this silent majority stays on to get valuable info about the Leica products and the use of Leica products. As this list is public any one can post whatever he likes. On the other hand because of its public nature I would also assume that the active posters will feel the responsibility of making their thoughts and ideas public. Sharing your info is very important. But as every writer/journalist knows: be careful in what you say and think twice, research double before going public. By inference any poster on this list should be that responsible. Erwin