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Subject: Re: [Leica] 3200
From: "Bruce Feldman" <brucef@waw.pdi.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:18:30 +0100

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Thanks for this great post, Christer.  I think many of us have been =
waiting for such a test, but (very) unfortunately do not read French. =20

Bruce Feldman
Warsaw


The April issue (# 85) of the French magazine R=E9ponses Photo has a =
side-by-side test of Delta 3200 and Tmax 3200 both exposed at 800, 1600, =
3200 and 6400 and developed in ID11/D76, Ilfotec DD-X, Microphen, Xtol, =
Tmax and Microfine. That makes 48 different tests!!

Both films give very good results at 800 with all developers, but so do =
all 400 films pushed one step, so why use 3200 asks RP. At 1600 =
Microphen gave very good results with both films, as did Tmax developer =
and Microfine with Tmax 3200.

At 3200 the Tmax developer with Tmax 3200 gave the best results, other =
combinations gave good results. At 6400 no combination was very good. =
The reason =3D as we know ;-) =3D is that these film are true ISO =
800-1000-max 1200 film so that exposing at 3200 is already pushing =
one-and-a-half to two steps.

BTW, Anchell & Troop in their new 'Film Developing Cookbook' recommend =
another approach to obtaining good results when pushing film: use Xtol =
or FX 37 and dilute twice as much as you normally do and increase =
development time 50-100% for a two-stop push. They say Tri-X can be =
pushed three steps (i.e. to 3200) with acceptable results. I have found =
the same. Detailed times for almost all films are in the book.=20
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christer almqvist
eichenstrasse 57, d-20255 hamburg, fon +49-40-407111 fax +49-40-4908440
14 rue de la hauteur, f-50590 regn=E9ville-sur-mer, fon+fax +33-233 45 =
35 58=20

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<DIV>Thanks for this great post, Christer.&nbsp; I think many of us have =
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waiting for such a test, but (very) unfortunately do not read =
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<DIV>Bruce Feldman</DIV>
<DIV>Warsaw</DIV>
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<DIV>The April issue (# 85) of the French magazine R=E9ponses Photo has =
a=20
side-by-side test of Delta 3200 and Tmax 3200 both exposed at 800, 1600, =
3200=20
and 6400 and developed in ID11/D76, Ilfotec DD-X, Microphen, Xtol, Tmax =
and=20
Microfine. That makes 48 different tests!!<BR><BR>Both films give very =
good=20
results at 800 with all developers, but so do all 400 films pushed one =
step, so=20
why use 3200 asks RP. At 1600 Microphen gave very good results with both =
films,=20
as did Tmax developer and Microfine with Tmax 3200.<BR><BR>At 3200 the =
Tmax=20
developer with Tmax 3200 gave the best results, other combinations gave =
good=20
results. At 6400 no combination was very good. The reason =3D as we know =
;-) =3D is=20
that these film are true ISO 800-1000-max 1200 film so that exposing at =
3200 is=20
already pushing one-and-a-half to two steps.<BR><BR>BTW, Anchell &amp; =
Troop in=20
their new 'Film Developing Cookbook' recommend another approach to =
obtaining=20
good results when pushing film: use Xtol or FX 37 and dilute twice as =
much as=20
you normally do and increase development time 50-100% for a two-stop =
push. They=20
say Tri-X can be pushed three steps (i.e. to 3200) with acceptable =
results. I=20
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d-20255 hamburg,=20
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regn=E9ville-sur-mer, fon+fax +33-233 45 35 58 </DIV></BODY></HTML>

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