Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/02/17

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Delta 3200
From: Bill Welch <>
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:26:22 -0500

Eric, I may have over-reached a bit in trying to make my original point,
which I believe the quotation you cite was referencing. At EI 1600, I
believe it is a reasonably close call between HP5+ and TMZ, given good
technique with both. You are right that TMZ will hold more shadow detail at
that speed. But frankly, I like both at that speed, and Fuji's Neopan has
nice qualities at 1600 as well. 

The larger point is that at 1600 or below there are other reasonable
alternatives to TMZ. At 3200 there really are none, but for the new Ilford
Delta offering. To really exploit TMZ's wonderful potential, photographers
should not be afraid to push it to 3200 (or beyond for that matter). You
would hardly write a review of a Porsche 911 or a Testarossa after holding
it to 55 mph.


At 11:07 AM 2/17/99 -0600, you wrote:
>At 04:43 PM 2/17/99 +0000, you wrote:
>>Pushing Tri-X or HP5+ to 1600 will give better results at half the cost
>Not correct if you're talking image quality will well processed P3200 or 
>Delta. Tri-X pushed to 1600 is going to be missing major shadow detail that 
>will be in the higher-speed films which are actually right on at around 
>1200 to 1600 ISO.
>Eric Welch
>St. Joseph, MO