Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/12/13

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Subject: Re[4]: [Leica] 'My baby is American made'
From: Peterson_Art@hq.navsea.navy.mil
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 13:31:44 -0500

     
     The third statement does not necessarily mean that American workers 
     are lazy, nor was I contending that they're lazy, nor was I contending 
     that you meant they're lazy; but the third statement certainly can be 
     taken to imply or suggest that they're lazy, just as it could be taken 
     to imply or suggest other things (e.g., that they're not "corporate 
     slaves" or "human oxen" or that "they believe there is more to life 
     than 'work'").  It is for this reason that I agree with you that the 
     third statement does not "prove anything about the first statement."
     
     Art Peterson
     Alexandria, VA
     

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Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Leica] 'My baby is American made'
Author:  leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us at Internet
Date:    12/13/98 12:50 PM


>      The third statement implies the opposite of the first, but 
> the second
>      does not.
>
>      Art Peterson
>      Alexandria, VA
     
Absolutely not true. The third statement does not suggest, imply, or prove 
anything about the first statement. The fact that there may be workers 
overseas who are acculturated to working long, hard hours at low pay does not 
in any way suggest that American workers are either lazy or stupid. It may 
suggest that they are not corporate slaves. It may suggest that they are not 
human oxen. It may suggest that they believe there is more to life than 
"work." It does not, however, suggest that they are either lazy or stupid.
     
I am not an economist, but I would suggest that we no longer have a photo 
industry because we were undercut by the Japanese several decades ago when 
they began producing quality photo products at low cost - producing them at 
low cost because their standard of living, and thus wages, was infinitely 
lower than ours, and their industries have government support.
     
     
1. The average American worker is not stupid or lazy. 
> <snip>
2.  The underlying problem is the failure of American public 
> >schools.
3. There is no way an American worker can avoid competition from
> >workers overseas who may be willing to work harder longer hours 
> >
> >Kirk Turk
> >Leica@olemiss.edu
> >
>