Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/11/24

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Subject: Re: [Leica] MTF and photodo, addition
From: Dominique PELLISSIER <pelliss@droit-eco.u-nancy.fr>
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:31:03 +0100

At 23:49 23/11/98 +0100, Erwin wrote :
BTW: PopPhoto uses this Ealing measurement apparatus too. Most Lugmembers
are not satisfied with or convinced that the popphoto results are
meaningfull. So here we have at least four companies (popphoto,
cdi,photodo, leica) using the same testing equipment. Why should we believe
cdi or photodo while we disbelieve popphoto.
It is not the equipment, but the smart use of it that generates useful
results.The argument: they use Ealing, therfore it must be OK, is the same
wrong inference as: they use Leica so the pictures must be fantastic.
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>Erwin
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I have never used the argument : "they use Ealing, therefore it must be OK".
An Ealing equipment is a sine qua non condition in order to have objective
and significant raw data. Leica and Photodo publish such raw data  in the
form of graphs.I am not (exactly ?)Einstein but I can interpret a graph
alone.After all it is my daily job.
Now Chasseur d'images, Photodo and maybe Popular photo transform raw data
into weighted means. That's the BAB of statistics.We can't criticize the
method (using weighted means) if the method is clearly expose. That's the
case with Photodo.But we can criticize the choice of the weighting parameters.
You say :"Why should we believe cdi or photodo while we disbelieve
popphoto". The answer is quite clear. Pop Photo does not give the method
they use. Moerover there is a "subjective quality factor".What's that ?
You wrote in a previous message about Photodo :"They give a very low
weighting to in the field performance, the 40 lp/mm and the full aperture:
this is precisely the area where Leica can score and excells. So their
weighting for us Leica users is very uninformative".I partially agree with
you. But they also publish weighted MTF at 40 lp/mm for f=1.4,2,2.8,4 and
8. I've compared their results for the Summilux 75 I own and I find them
accurate, as accurate as CI results.

BTW what is your own methodology ? Non weighting ? 40 lp/mm only ? Etc.

Dominique Pellissier