Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/09/02

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Current discussion....
From: Leopold Green <>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:54:50 +0100

Isn't it time this thread stopped! 

But at risk of continuing it I am very 'curious' as to the 'equating' of
Waco and the 'Final Solution', I think the comparisons in this post do a
dangerous disservice to the memory and understanding of the of the
Nazi's racial policy, its history [the history of anti-Semitism in
'Christian' Europe] and application [systematic, mechanised mass murder
operated by a large bureaucratic apparatus --I don't think Bill Clinton
or anyone else in the Federal government is engaged in the systematic
murder of all gun toting far right Christian's in America!]


	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Dan Post []
	Sent:	Wednesday, September 02, 1998 4:34 PM
	Subject:	Re: [Leica] Current discussion....

	I am caught on the horns of a dilemma. I can see the horror of
the German
	governments attempts at extirpation of anyone not of 'Aryan'
descent; I can
	see it today in such events as Ruby Ridge, and Waco. I Know
about these
	present day horrors, and I feel powerless to do anything. Will I
be blamed
	later for not acting when the US government oversteps the bounds
of its
	power? I can see where the many small, recorded and unrecorded
gestures of
	kindness and aid from the people of the German occupied Europe
might be
	appreciated on one hand, and thought to be insufficient on the
	I know that the sum of the aid rendered by these individuals may
not offset
	the horror done by the German juggernaut, but I can see the
victim's pain in
	thinking that no one cared. I imagine Randy Weaver felt betrayed
by his
	fellow citizens when he saw his wife and son shot down. Our
government in
	the US applauded the brave young man facing the tanks in
Beijing, but
	brushes aside the scores of children who died facing American
tanks in Waco.
	I am afraid that despite all the good intentions of people
everywhere, man
	inhumanity to man will unfortunately continue. I feel that we
have too many
	examples to learn from; from before the days of colonial
expansion until
	today, our history as a species is besmirched with the blood of
	My question is not when will it ever end, but rather will it
ever end?