Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/09/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Indeed we should not forget history. However although we are not being allowed to forget the Jewish holocaust other holocausts are taking place at this time with hardly a mention. I find interesting the philosophical dichotomy when it comes to holocausts. Why the silence about all the others? Why do we not agonize over the near annihilation of the American Indians, their subjugation and eventual marginalization. Or the internment of the Japanese Americans during WW2 and the confiscation of their lands? Or about the Armenian holocaust at the hands of the Turks. Or the Cambodian holocaust and the one now taking place, the Yugoslavian "ethnic cleansing"? Why do we not talk about these, at least not with the intensity with which we refer to the Jewish holocaust? is it because we have no excuse for standing idle while people are being massacred with impunity? Or is it because the Jewish vote in the USA is very powerful while there is little representation by the other respective nationalities? History is repeating itself over and over but only the Jews are to be commiserated for their loss. It is immoral to prosecute and persecute VW, Leica, and other companies whose present management had nothing to do with actions taken more than a half century ago. Atrocities are committed by humans not companies. Lawyers are only part of the problem. Pandering, two-faced politicians share much of the blame. Joseph Codispoti - -----Original Message----- From: Bruce R. Slomovitz <brslomo@erols.com> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Date: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] Slave Unit >I'm afraid that what we are reading here about letting history rest is just >so much crap from those who, likely as not, would have us believe that the >holocaust never happened. It's the same crap you hear from those who don't >want to talk about slavery. The truth, unfortunately, is that when a >society perpetrates this kind of crime, there never can be an end to talking >of it. It must be talked about so that it can never happen again. > >Bruce S. >-----Original Message----- >From: B. D. Colen <bdcolen@earthlink.net> >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> >Date: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 7:37 PM >Subject: RE: [Leica] Slave Unit > > >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of TM >>Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 6:43 PM >>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>Subject: Re: [Leica] Slave Unit >> >> >>The obvious source of the lawsuit? Extremely greedy attorneys and their >>clients, >>Jewish, who won't let history rest. My Jewish photographer friends are >>disturbed >>about this as well. Poor Leica! Its current management had no part in the >>operations the lawsuits allege took place. Down with lawyers!!! Up with >>photographers!!! >> >>---------------------------------- >>REPLY: >>Excuse me? "Won't let history rest"? >> >>We don't seem to have any facts about the Leica situation at the moment, so >>believing that someone is innocent until proven guilty, let's set that one >>aside for the moment. >> >>There doesn't seem to be any question, however, that numerous German >>corporations, including VW and Benz, profited by their use of slave labor. >>No one is blaming today's corporate officer for what happened. These are, >>however, the same corporations they were back then. The corporation, >>therefore, is very much responsible in terms of compensating victims and >>victims families. Just as German and Swiss banks, whose officials from the >>30s and 40s are long dead or retired, are morally and legally responsible >to >>make good on purloined accounts, etc. >> >>I find it quite "amusing" that you have to note in your post that this is >>being done by "extremely greedy attorneys and their clients, Jewish..." >Not, >>"their clients, survivors of/victims of," Nazi horrors. And your "Jewish >>photographer friends" are upset by this. >> >>Wow...Those greedy Jews and their lawyers are at it again. But some of your >>best friends, who are Jewish, are upset by what the greedy ones, the loud >>pushy ones, are doing. Somehow, that all sounds painfully familiar. >> >>Let history lay? What ever happened to the idea that those who fail to >study >>history are doomed to repeat it? >> > >