Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/09/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I do not believe it is "their" history...it is ours, all of us, mankind's history. There has been many genocides in the past, the Armenians and the recent war in ex-Yougoslavia, that are, by many, preferred to be forgotten...unfortunately. The horrors of the second world war is better not to be forgotten but let's not be judge and jury in a case for which we have very little detail. This list is about a product -namely Leica cameras- and its use. We better let the Justice decide who is guilty and of what. The pain inflicted on the Jewish nation -- directly (Nazis) or indirectly (the rest of the world in their ignorance (wether they decided to turn their back to what was going on or they in fact really didn't know about it) -- is a burden that we all have to carry and maybe another call for us to build a better world for the children of today and tomorrow. Those are my toughts. May God bless America and all the nations of the world! Francois - -----Original Message----- From: Bruce R. Slomovitz <brslomo@erols.com> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Date: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] Slave Unit >I'm afraid that what we are reading here about letting history rest is just >so much crap from those who, likely as not, would have us believe that the >holocaust never happened. It's the same crap you hear from those who don't >want to talk about slavery. The truth, unfortunately, is that when a >society perpetrates this kind of crime, there never can be an end to talking >of it. It must be talked about so that it can never happen again. > >Bruce S. >-----Original Message----- >From: B. D. Colen <bdcolen@earthlink.net> >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> >Date: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 7:37 PM >Subject: RE: [Leica] Slave Unit > > >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of TM >>Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 6:43 PM >>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>Subject: Re: [Leica] Slave Unit >> >> >>The obvious source of the lawsuit? Extremely greedy attorneys and their >>clients, >>Jewish, who won't let history rest. My Jewish photographer friends are >>disturbed >>about this as well. Poor Leica! Its current management had no part in the >>operations the lawsuits allege took place. Down with lawyers!!! Up with >>photographers!!! >> >>---------------------------------- >>REPLY: >>Excuse me? "Won't let history rest"? >> >>We don't seem to have any facts about the Leica situation at the moment, so >>believing that someone is innocent until proven guilty, let's set that one >>aside for the moment. >> >>There doesn't seem to be any question, however, that numerous German >>corporations, including VW and Benz, profited by their use of slave labor. >>No one is blaming today's corporate officer for what happened. These are, >>however, the same corporations they were back then. The corporation, >>therefore, is very much responsible in terms of compensating victims and >>victims families. Just as German and Swiss banks, whose officials from the >>30s and 40s are long dead or retired, are morally and legally responsible >to >>make good on purloined accounts, etc. >> >>I find it quite "amusing" that you have to note in your post that this is >>being done by "extremely greedy attorneys and their clients, Jewish..." >Not, >>"their clients, survivors of/victims of," Nazi horrors. And your "Jewish >>photographer friends" are upset by this. >> >>Wow...Those greedy Jews and their lawyers are at it again. But some of your >>best friends, who are Jewish, are upset by what the greedy ones, the loud >>pushy ones, are doing. Somehow, that all sounds painfully familiar. >> >>Let history lay? What ever happened to the idea that those who fail to >study >>history are doomed to repeat it? >> >