Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/07/19

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Gen. Nguyen/Loan [OFF-TOPIC]
From: (phong)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 01:24:11 +0000

In Vietnam, the family name comes first;  however, it is the given name
that is used in formal appellation.  So, although General Nguyen Ngoc Loan's
family name is Nguyen, he would be properly referred to as General Loan, or
Mr. Loan
in civilian life.  Ditto with President Diem, President Thieu, General Giap,
Only in extremely formal, and ceremonial (or propagandistic) occasions would
family name be used - this is more common in China than in Vietnam: e.g. Mao 
Chairman, Uncle Ho.

- - Phong, whose full name is Doan huu Phong, and whom you may call "Mr. Phong" or
just "Phong".  Should I achieve recognition at the Cartier-Bresson level, I
would be
revered by this group as "Doan Leica Master" ;-).