Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/08/23

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Subject: Re: [Leica]plutocrats
From: Donal Philby <donalphilby@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:23:48 +0000

Alan Hull wrote:

> I can't help feeling that standards are falling rapidly and the
> customer is being cheated.  Donal even mentions one charlaton producing
> billboards from the 35mm negative.  These must be the ones I see in bus
> shelters in Sweden.  If you are waiting for the bus it is impossible to
> even detect form.  You have to stand on the other side of the street.

Alan, probably reproduction, not the original photos.  I fellow I
mentioned is a fantastic shooter and his billboards look just fine (even
if they weren't shot with a Leica!).  But content matters here and the
magic moments he captures would be almost impossible on anything else
but AF (Canon in his case).
> 
> I received a house paint catalogue in the mail, where a photograph of a
> house in different colours  (photoshop?) had LEANING VERTICALS,  In my
> opinion this is professional suicide.  They may not realise that there
> are a lot of hungry 35mm camera operators out there just waiting for
> technical standards to drop low enough to let them in to the big money.

That one I won't argue with.  Yesterday I got call to bid job to do
photo for packaging for one of the country's largest sprinkler watering
system manufacturers.  I bid the job at around $4000 for location
finding (garden), location fees, model, assistant, stylist, my fees and
preproduction time and extra plants for foreground that we could
control.

I spoke later to art director and he said he would do his best to sell
me.  But he said the last project he did, this client got a bid of $500
for a brochure cover photo (studio), thought it was way too much and
negotiated it down to $300.  And in the same conversation asked if the
art director could redesign this same brochure cover for less than
$5000!  

No, you counted the zeroes right.

At least it is crystal clear where the value of photography is these
days.

Can I hang a plant on my back porch and do a quick photo of a hand
watering it?  Sure, and make about $500 an hour.  But it will be a
compromise.  Yet the photo they want will be the primary selling tool on
the packaging on display in stores.  BTW, this is a huge international
company all have probably heard of.

And no, they don't deserve to have it shot with a Leica.

donal

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Donal Philby
San Diego
http://www.donalphilby.com