Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/05/17

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Versions of 35/2 and 35/1,4 for M (improved)
From: Michael Garmisa <kilemall@shell.excelsior.net>
Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 16:03:40 -0400 (EDT)

On 17-May-98 Lucien wrote:
> VERSIONS OF THE SUMMICRON 35 for M :updated (#) and improved  ;-)
> 
> 1 1958-69 Canada and Wetzlar (filter E-39):
>  - Chrome for M2 = 11308 (SAWOO-MW)
>  - Chrome RF for M3 = 11108
>   1961-69:
>  - rare black for M2 = 11307 (SAWOO-M)
>  - Rare black RF for M3 = 11104
> 2 1969-70(or 73*) Canada + rare Wetzlar (filter E-39 + serie VII):
>  - Black chrome 11309 
>    (with protuding aperture control lever)
>  - #Ultra rare black RF for M3 = ???? never catalogued
>    (Rogliatti Leica & Leicaflex lenses, page 45)
> 3 1970-79 (or 1973*) Canada (filter E-39 + serie VII**):
>  - Black chrome 11309 
>    (same code, new computation***, no protuding etc..)
>   * according to first serial nr = 1970
>     according to litterature = 1973
>   ** Some rare lens accept only serie VII
>   *** no draft of the new lens design available, debatable.
> 4 1979-97 Canada + Germany (Solms)(filter E-39):
>  - Black chrome 11310
>   1992-97 Germany:
>  - Chrome 11311
> 5 1997 Germany:
>  - Current Black Asph. = 13131
>  - Current Chrome Asph.= 13132
> 
> VERSIONS OF THE SUMMILUX 35 FOR M:
> 
> 1 1960-66 Canada(filter E-41):
>  - Chrome for M2 = 11870
>  - Chrome RF for M3 = 11871
>   1961-66:
>  - Black for M2 = 11869
>  - Black RF for M3 = 1872
> 2 1966-96(serie VII) (slight improvement, maybe coating only):
>  - Black chrome = 11870 Canada and Germany (Solms)
>    (focusing levers:early types with infinity lock, later don't)
>   1966-74 (serie VII):
>  - Black RF for M3 = 11871  Canada
>   1992-96 (serie VII):
>  - Titanium finish = 11860 Germany (Solms)
> 3 1991-94 Germany (filter E-46):
>  - Rare Black chrome ASPHERICAL = 11873 
> 4 1994 Germany (filter E-46):
>  - Current Black chrome ASPH. = 11874
>   1996 :
>  - Current Silver chrome ASPH. = 11883
>  - Current Titanium finish ASPH.= 11859
> 
> 
> 
> Lucien

How much better is the newer vesions of these lense, not the asp but the ones 
right before (I assume they are better) I don't think i would be happy using a
separate veiwfinder so the goggles seem to be the only way to go, perhaps if the
difference is significant as I imagine (athough the summilux supposedly hasn't
changed that much, finding one in good condition might be hard) I will buy a
50/2.0 summicron and not get a 35 till I get a new body.
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Michael Garmisa <kilemall@shell.excelsior.net>  ICQ# 11583837
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