Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/05/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]See below the comments of the inimitable and eminently knowledgeable Erwin Puts on the film/developer issue........ At 10:58 AM 4/7/98 +0200, you wrote: >>Has Erwin ever compared film/developer combinations, Pyro, Windisch, fx1, >>TechPan and Technidol, etc. to evaluate best combination(s) of "sharpness" >>and/or range to make maximum use of Leica glass? In reading the Formulary >>catalog I see claims of developers capable of recording a 15 stop range >>with fine grain and high "acutance". > > >Of course I did. Would you like to expose film with such a marvelous >instrument as an M Leica without making sure the potential capabilities of >the optics/mechanics are not being degraded by emulsion/chemical >mishandling. >But here as elsewhere, we must part from history. Old wondermixtures and >secret formula have no place in the actual world of emulsion science. >Windisch, Pyro etc tried to get high acutance effects with films not made >for this exercise. In general now the high acutance era is gone. Not that >acutance is no longer important. No, most films and developers will produce >slight acutance effects. Many developer formula will have less impact on >the endresults nowadays, because films are more robust and will not react >very sensitively to different developers. Ilford for instance states that >their excellent Delta line is totally unsensitive to developer >characteristics as the chararteristics of the film are as it were inbuilt. >I used many developers from Rodinal, through D76 to XTOL on all modern B&W >films (From Agfa APX 25 to Fuji Neopan 1600). The differences are very >visible no doubt about it. But again, you need at least a 12 to 15 times >enlargement to see it. >My conclusions? >Techpan and Technidol/Rodinal or whatever is a combination with a stunning >resolution and richness of details. It is no acutance champion. >Rodinal is not my favorite: its gives tight grain, but very stong clumps of >it. It enhances the sharpness impression but ruins the fine gradations of >small details. >My preferred combinations: Agfa APX 25 and Paterson FX39 or XTOL. Ilford >PanF lLus and 100Delta in the same developers. >These developers have a very good balance between acutance and gradation >and willbringout the bst from leica lenses. The APX 25 and the PAnFPlus are >in the same league as Techpan but bring sharper results and finer tonality. >It is impossible to get a 15 stop range with any film/developer >combination. To accomodate this range you need a Contrast Index so low that >any sharpness/acutance or contrast is developed out of the film. >Here as everywhere there is a balance: a steep curve gives gradation , but >a smaller range of stops. A good acutance needs some grain forming activity >and that ia against the quest for very fine grain. >One must remember that a 35mm negative is a different breed from a 120 or >large format negative and many of the Zone System ideas will not work on a >35mm unless you adapt to the characteristics of the small emulsion area. >To sum up: try APX25 and XTOLand the best of Leica lenses is at your feet. >After this: use this combination until you are sure you know everything >about it. >Erwin > > > > Mike Leitheiser "When the trout are lost, smash the state." Tom McGuane