Re: [Leica] Solms/Representative & Anonymous Allegations on the LUG

["Dan Post" <dwpost@email.msn.com>]

Golly Gee!
If I say something wrong, should I expect a "knock on the door"?
<G>
Dan'l
dwpost@msn.com
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From: Leikon35 <Leikon35@aol.com>
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Date: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 7:57 PM
Subject: [Leica] Solms/Representative & Anonymous Allegations on the LUG

> Some of us must have forgotten or missed the post by the our new LUG
> member Alan Karadagi, who is in Solms & although it isnt his job to do so,
> monitors (at random) LUG posts.  I don't think that anything of relevance
> is being missed by Solms & I too would advise caution by those that make
> a livelyhood by the good graces of Leica to refrain from antagonizing
them.
>
> Marvin Moss
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> In a message dated 98-03-11 18:17:36 EST, Claes wrote:
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> Marc wrote:
>
> >I would suggest that anonymous allegations -- "dealers say such and such,
> >but I cannot repeat their names! -- be avoided.  Such statements are
> >inflammatory and, as they are not subject to verification, are worthless.
>
> Marc,
> I had no idea that Leica was on trial! When you are asking for
"verification"
>you certainly sound like a defence lawyer.
>
> The LUG-list should not be mistaken for a court room. It should be a forum
>for free discussions about Leica cameras, lenses and other related issues.
Am
>I right?
>
> More important, as a journalist, I take personal offence if someone asks
for
>my source. Actually, asking for the name of a news source or any other
attempt
>to disclose the name of a news source is a serious  violation of my
countryīs
>constitution. And I donīt think the American constitution is very different
in
>this respect. So when a Leica repairman confides in me and complains about
>recent quality deterioration Iīm obliged by the ethics of journalism to
>protect his identity.
>
>
> BTW, do you turn down all stories in for instance NYT or Washington Post
if
>they donīt print the names of their sources? Would those stories in your
>opinion therefore be "worthless"? Deep Throat certainly had quite an impact
on
>the future of Nixon, didnīt he?
>
> What I really want to say is that even if it hurts you should take the
recent
>critical observations and statements about new Leica cameras more
seriously.
>And maybe with less open hostility. I donīt think we have any liars in this
>group. And when some of us are forced to notify the group about our
personal
>negative experiences and observations regarding our newly purchased Leicas,
we
>donīt do it with malicious intent! We probably love and respect our Leica
>cameras as much as the rest of you.
>
> I think, and hope, that the Leica company appreciates any honest and
>constructive input about their products. And I doubt they need
selfappointed
>apologists to act on their behalf.
>
> Claes
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