Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/11/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 22:39:06 +0100 >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >From: Erwin Puts <imxputs@knoware.nl> >Subject: Re: Bokeh:a mythical construct >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >Gee, I now wished I had kept my big mouth shut. >Sorry for not answering within a day. Sometimes I have to work for a >couple of days in circumstances where my mind is not tuned to Leica stuff. >To start: I am very much aware of the fact that any lens can only give a >sharp rendering of an object in a flat plane. So any 3D object has one >sharp plane and every other extension of that object in front or behind >that plane is unsharp in various degrees. The 'thickness' of the sharpness >plane is governed by the familiar circle-of-confusion, which is also the >basis of the various DOF tables. All these tables are based on the fact >that the permissible circle of confusion is 0.03mm. This is nowadys >hopelessly inadequate as anyone who enlarges his negatives or projects his >transparencoes can readily see for him/herself. >So the phenomenon of unsharpness as such is a fact of optics. >The way the unsharpness is rendered by any lens is a result of two kinds >of computations. First of all the computations that ensure the sharpness >of the in-focus-plane are relevant for the unsharpness regions. The better >the optical correction of the sharpness plane, so will be the rendition of >the unsharpness areas. BUT: if the corrections of the sharpness plane are >extremely well done, then the visual or perceivable diffence (that is the >gradient from sharp to unsharp) will be quite steep. This happens with all >modern Leica lenses of the recent (3) generation. Older lenses have a >smoother gradient, not because of any special characteristics of the >unsharpness rendition, but simply because the in-focus-sharpness was not >as well corrected as it is today. >Second: any lens designer can concentrate on maximizing the >characteristics of the sharpness (more general: the rendition) of the >in-focus-plane and ,speaking relatively, neglect the correction of optical >defects in the out-of-focus areas. >That is what most japanese lensdesigners do as they optimize for high MTF >values in the plane of focus. Therefore the noted diffences between for >instance Leica and Nikon/Canon. >Nothing new or mythical here. The effect of the placement of the diaphragm >and the number of blades is greatly exaggerated. The basic optical >characteristics are laid down by the optics not the mechanics. Only in >highly unsymmetrical lenses the diaphragm placement has a certain role to >play. The number of blades has an insignificant effect. >So 'bokeh' as a construct has nothing new to reveal. But as soon as we >start stating that the 35 Summicon (nonASPH) has better bokeh than the >actual Summicron 35 ASPH we make the wrong turn from a factual view. >Certainly if we imply that Leica lenses are specifically designed to show >good bokeh (whatever that is) we are sliding into mysticism. >Just as we can rationally discuss the correction of optical aberrations in >the sharpness area, we can do the same for the unsharpness area. To make a >bold statement: if Canon (which I give a higher value optically than >Nikon) were to decide to design a lens according to Leica standards, the >rendition of the out-of-focus-areas would be identical. > >> Erwin, are you saying that you believe that all lenses of >> the same focal length render out-of-focus areas identically >> when opened to the same aperture? >> > >No I do not believe that all lenses of same focal length focused at an >object at the same distance and stopped down to the same diaphragm render >the o-o-f areas identically. But that is as stated a function of the >corrections of the sharpness areaand the careful attention to the optical >aberrations in the unsharpness areas. Optical aberrations are not >different for the sharpness and the unsharpness areas. The same laws and >mathematical equations work here and there. > >As for testing. As always you can only compare in a meaningful way any >differences when you take comparative pictures with the same film and the >same object at the same distance with different lenses set at the same >aperture. Pictures taken in these settings with the Summicron 35 >(non-ASPH) and Summicron ASPH revealed hardly any visual difference in >the rendition of out of focus areas. The superior bokeh of the nonASPH >version I failed to note. >Erwin > > >